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QUESTION - HELP! My check-engine-light just came on, what's wrong?

ANSWER(AO River) The honest answer - we don't know what's wrong. Forum members can take potshot guesses at what they might think is wrong based on their experiences.. but without reading the fault codes - it's just guesses. What you should do is get the codes read. Most large chain autoparts places (AutoZone, PepBoys, etc.) will read the codes for you for free in the hopes when you find the problem you'll buy the parts to fix it from them. These code readers will read the OBD-II codes (emissions related P0001-P0999). You could also visit a Subaru Dealership (figure $50+ to read the codes) or a good independent dealer.

You also can purchase your own code reader. A few uses of the code reader vs visiting the dealer make it pay for itself.

Once you get the codes THEN come back, tell us what they are, and we'll be better able to take educated guesses as to why your CEL is on.​

QUESTION – What are all these abbreviations people use?

ANSWER(AO River, Ignatius, OBnube, rasterman)
  • ABS = Anti-lock Braking System
  • AWD = All-wheel Drive
  • AWP = All-weather Package
  • Bat = Battery
  • BSM = Body Side Moldings
  • B2B = Bumper-to-bumper (referring to factory warranty)
  • CPO = Certified Pre-Owned
  • CVT = Continuously Variable Transmission
  • CEL = Check Engine Light (also referred to as SES or MIL)
  • DIY = Do-it-yourself
  • DRL = Daytime Running Lights
  • EBD = Electronic Brake-force Distribution
  • ECM/ECU = Engine Control Module / Engine Control Unit
  • FSB = Front Sway Bar
  • GC = Ground Clearance
  • Gen 4 = Fourth Generation Subaru Outback (2010-Present)
  • HID = High Intensity Discharge (headlights)
  • H/K = Harman Kardon (sound system)
  • IIK = Interior Illumination KIt
  • LSD = Limited-slip Differential
  • LTD = Limited (model)
  • MAF = Mass Airflow Sensor
  • MIL = Malfunction Indicator Light (also referred to as CEL or SES)
  • MOD = Modification
  • MPG = Miles per Gallon
  • MR = Moonroof
  • MT = Manual Transmission
  • MY = Model Year
  • OB = (Subaru) Outback
  • OBS = (Subaru) Outback Sport
  • OBW = (Subaru) Outback Wagon
  • OBXT = (Subaru) Outback XT
  • OBC = On-board Computer
  • OBD/OBDII = On-board Diagnostics
  • OEM = Original Equipment Manufacturer
  • PPI = Pre-Purchase Inspection
  • RSP = Rear Seat Protector
  • RSW = Rear Sway Bar
  • SAP = Special Appearance Package
  • SoA = Subaru of America
  • SES = Service Engine Soon (also referred to as CEL or MIL)
  • SSK = Short Shifter Kit
  • TPMS = Tire Pressure Monitoring System
  • TPS = Throttle Position Sensor
  • VDC = Vehicle Dynamics Control (Subaru's Stability Control System)
  • V1 = Valentine 1 (Valentine One radar and laser detectors)
  • WOT = Wide Open Throttle
  • 6MT/6SP/6SPD = 6 Speed Manual Transmission
 

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Nicely done. I sent you a PM.

Also, refer to cars101.com - Joe Spitz (out of Seattle, WA area) has done a pretty good job presenting all Subaru models (thanks Joe).
 

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Thread title adjusted, thread stickied.
 

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I wish I would have seen this before I bought my 2012 OB. I too live in Colorado - SW area. I'm driving 7700 and more all winter long. The vibration is definitely an issue and I haven't gotten any satisfaction.

How have you made out with your Subaru?
 

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This thread should be the first one in a new forum section called "Gen 5: 2015-"
 

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I'll add one known issue that seems to be all over local forums here in Finland: the clutch in 2.0 manual diesels and apparently some gas engines as well develops a clear shake especially when cold or not used for a day or a few, and on first gear. This seems to affect most of the cars very soon and replacing the clutch may make it vanish for a while or not at all. There are some aftermarket clutch setups available to make it smoother, but the general consensus seems to be it is just a small nuisance that belongs in the car and best dealt with by simply adding some more throttle at starts which makes it unnoticeable.

Here we also pretty routinely remove the diesel particle filters and reprogram the engines accordingly, but in the USA it appears to be an illegal move.
 

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My Opinion of the 2010 Outback

When we went car shopping for a new vehicle, we test drove at least 20 different makes and models. The 2010 Outback was by far the most comfortable ride we had experienced. This was the first Subaru we had ever bought.

We got terrific gas mileage, at times 40 mpg. Now consider we live in Texas and our highways are more flat that other areas.

Only feature we did not like was the heavy driver/passenger doors. When we were parked in our driveway which had a slight incline, the doors would not hold and we were constantly getting our shins bumped when the doors closed back.

Overall, we loved (past tense) that car. It got rear-ended and totaled when it had just over 16,000 miles on it.

The newer models of Outback were redesigned and the doors were made lighter but the ride has not been as nice as the 2010 model.
 

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When looking at a 2013 Outback made before May 2013, Subaru has identified that there are issues with an unknown number of Outbacks burning oil.

If you are planning on purchasing a PZEV type 2.5L 4 cylinder (FB25) version of the Outback (or Legacy), contact Subaru of America with the VIN and inquire as to if an oil consumption test has ever been run on the vehicle.

If so, don't purchase that used vehicle.
 

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Finally pulled the trigger...

Been shopping for an Outback since 2010, and I finally did it. Bought a 2013 Limited with 40K miles on it a week ago, and it included such complete service records that I felt good about the purchase. I traded in my 2010 Prius.


This weekend, for the first time, we drove in rain. The tires still have a lot of tread on them, so I was surprised when it felt like I was hydroplaning left and right. It wasn't major, but minor slips and starts that I'm not used to feeling AND didn't expect with AWD.


Anyone else experience this? It was heavy rain, but not like a monsoon or anything. I'm trying to figure out if it's just the way Outbacks handle, or if there's something mechanical I should have looked at. Any thoughts or feedback are really, really appreciated.
 

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Been shopping for an Outback since 2010, and I finally did it. Bought a 2013 Limited with 40K miles on it a week ago, and it included such complete service records that I felt good about the purchase. I traded in my 2010 Prius.


This weekend, for the first time, we drove in rain. The tires still have a lot of tread on them, so I was surprised when it felt like I was hydroplaning left and right. It wasn't major, but minor slips and starts that I'm not used to feeling AND didn't expect with AWD.


Anyone else experience this? It was heavy rain, but not like a monsoon or anything. I'm trying to figure out if it's just the way Outbacks handle, or if there's something mechanical I should have looked at. Any thoughts or feedback are really, really appreciated.
poor alignments can leave a very small portion of the tire on the road.

and some cars have such asymmetry in the alignments any heavy rain or a little snow will make them sway.

summer rain, getting on a road covered in diesel, oil, coolant, tire smudge, and brake dust, makes all that a greasy surface for any car. = something that contributes to the big wreck pileups in southern california. (no tire tread laws in such states kind of suck too).

Edit: and too bad you could not keep a prius. (nice combo, a outback and a prius
even a real old one for local runs).
 

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Been shopping for an Outback since 2010, and I finally did it. Bought a 2013 Limited with 40K miles on it a week ago, and it included such complete service records that I felt good about the purchase. I traded in my 2010 Prius.


This weekend, for the first time, we drove in rain. The tires still have a lot of tread on them, so I was surprised when it felt like I was hydroplaning left and right. It wasn't major, but minor slips and starts that I'm not used to feeling AND didn't expect with AWD.


Anyone else experience this? It was heavy rain, but not like a monsoon or anything. I'm trying to figure out if it's just the way Outbacks handle, or if there's something mechanical I should have looked at. Any thoughts or feedback are really, really appreciated.
I've had mine for over a year and a half. Never noticed any problems like you described driving through water on the road other than having to straighten out the heat shield on two occasions when the spray bent it over towards the axle causing it to rub.
 

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I just bought a 2010 Outback 2.5 Premium, from a local dealership, with 118K miles.....excellent condition, one-owner vehicle, all maintenance performed at this dealership.

I was lucky that the dealership provided me with full service records, and that my purchase price included $1,800.00 in pre-sale service that included, oil and filter, new tires and brakes, timing belt, and differential and CVT drain and fill.....amongst some other items.

Also got a 6 Mo/ 6K mile warranty and first oil change free. I'm going to have a block heater installed next week in advance of the sub-zero temps that are sure to come this winter. The car has been great in the 3K miles I've put on it since purchase.

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I will bring this alive again, Any issues with 3.6 engine in 2010 or later Outbacks? I see a cheap one out here with 255,000ks on it. I know the 3.0 was a long life engine, no knowledge on the 3.6.
 

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Hello everyone.

I just bought a one owner 2013 outback base model. Nothing to report yet.

I wish there were more rugged kayak tie downs.
 

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When looking at a 2013 Outback made before May 2013, Subaru has identified that there are issues with an unknown number of Outbacks burning oil.

If you are planning on purchasing a PZEV type 2.5L 4 cylinder (FB25) version of the Outback (or Legacy), contact Subaru of America with the VIN and inquire as to if an oil consumption test has ever been run on the vehicle.

If so, don't purchase that used vehicle.
Just had this done on my '13 outback and as suspected, I have a substantial problem. Dealer is going to replace the full engine for free. Going to unload this thing ASAP, anyone else having this problem?
 
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