[cardoc]

You sure it was 52 and not 32? Maybe the software is getting the data skewed?

I would go with 32 and check the harness to the sensor for cracks or breaks. Check the connection and ECM outputs/inputs for the heater circuit.

Its likely the heater circuit is bad in the sensor. It would be odd if its within the ECM.

 

[cardoc]

I looked at that but Johnny's is an 01. Someone would have had to replace the ECM with an incorrect year model which would cause all kinds of havoc.

That's why I think he may have a software issue. Maybe using the wrong defs.

 

[cardoc]

This is an example of what I try to tell people. Just because the manufacturers name is on a sign out front does not guarantee you will get the car back in pristine condition and all work performed will be exactly the way it should.

They hire techs out of a tech school, pay them flat hourly rates and they learn on the job with your car.

Drive around the back of a dealer parking lot some afternoon and watch the techs leaving. Look at the cars they drive and the poor condition a lot of them are in. If they can't take care of their own, what makes you think they will take care of yours?

 

[cardoc]

Joe, its not that at all. People trust the dealer to have the training and skillset in the service department. I grew up around dealerships, specifically the service departments. They are not what they used to be. Techs used to care about their work and take pride in everything they put their hand on. Now, its get it in, get it out and use shortcuts. They don't have any concern over the effects of their actions. These techs don't take the time needed to keep up with changes and its like a trickle down education of bad information.

What good is it to have "one good tech"? You get an overworked tech and depending on the shop's flow, car's stacking up waiting for the one guy to get to it. Where's the logic? There isn't any. It's for cost control and the attitude at dealerships in recent years is concentrate on profit.

There is a member on this forum that took his car to a dealer to have a problem he believed was transmission related checked. He was told he needed a new transmission. A CVT. Went to another dealer and was told no problem was found. Is this poor skill or extortion?

I understand what you posted. My point is that people have faith and trust they will get a proper repair from trained professionals at the local dealership. Not so. At times, its like visiting Wal Mart for a diagnostic. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying all dealerships are poor. You just have to be careful and check into the credentials of the person who is tearing into your engine. And I see a lot of misdiagnosis and improper or poor repair practice come out of the dealerships.

What happens when the "one good tech" has a day off?

 

[cardoc]

Independent shops are no different. You should look into who is handling the bolts and nuts on your car. You check references with other businesses. I will give you a long list of people for reference if you were to ask. Most of my customers have been referred by people on that list and they have become a part of the list. And they all will gladly talk with anyone.

And I have had many training techs in my shops. I give them instruction, explain the way various systems operate and then I check everything they touch until I am certain the job is completed proper. If they have to do it again, they lose money. No one likes that, but some can't take responsibility and quit early in or I inform them that this is the wrong field for them. I tend to be blunt and straight up. No since beating around the bush. Especially when a person's life is in their hands. If they can't cut it with me, I wouldn't want them going somewhere else and continuing poor practices. I would prefer they find another field.

 

[cardoc]

Give me a minute and I'll let you know.

 

[cardoc]

Attached is a wiring diagram for the AF and O2. Notice the wire colors. Typical of Subaru wiring diagrams, the color of the wire may or may not match the diagram. In which case you would connect a scan tool to the car, start it, then while watching the AF and O2 sensor data, unplug one. The one that drops to zero tells which one it goes to.