Sounds like a good dealer to me. When did they suggest it be changed?To add another point to the discussion, I went in to have the fluid changed at 50k miles and the dealer representative recommended against it. I even mentioned that I do some light towing. The rep. mentioned that the CVT is built in a clean room and "if you have dirty transmission fluid with this CVT, you have bigger problems than dirty fluid".
Take it for what it's worth, but that's a dealer turning away a fair bit of money when someone is asking to have a service performed. I didn't have it performed based on the recommendation.
$110 may have been dealer cost if they thought fluid swap would fix a noisy cvt. It gives us a base line fluid replacement cost. Doubt i can get it done for less than $150. But I havent checked yet
what type of noise? is it only when the car is going very slow (under 10 mph)?
They said the fluid is good for the life of the vehicle unless you do a lot of heavy towing as per the owner's manual. This makes me think that my dealer is maybe just a little afraid to touch the new CVT since the same statement about the fluid being good for the life of the vehicle is in the service manual for non-CVT engines as well and I would bet they'd have done a transmission fluid change if I had a traditional transmission.Sounds like a good dealer to me. When did they suggest it be changed?
Sounds possible but 100k isn't the number because the service manual goes up to 120k (I know, you meant 100k as an example). It seems more likely to me that the oil is very unlikely to break down unless it heats up (heavy towing) so there is no reason to change it. If they eliminate contaminants during assembly (clean room) then some of the causes of oil break down would also be eliminated (air, water, carbon) and that would only leave heat. (salt and detergent count too but I doubt they are a factor here)They said the fluid is good for the life of the vehicle unless you do a lot of heavy towing as per the owner's manual. This makes me think that my dealer is maybe just a little afraid to touch the new CVT since the same statement about the fluid being good for the life of the vehicle is in the service manual for non-CVT engines as well and I would bet they'd have done a transmission fluid change if I had a traditional transmission.
In my mind, recommending to not change the transmission fluid keys off of two possible reasons:
1. It's really better not to change the transmission fluid.
2. Subaru thinks most people will be happy if their car lasts up to X miles (X being whatever number their analysists came up with for which most people will be happy that their car lasted that long) and the transmission should hold up well enough without a fluid change to that point. X could be 100,000 miles for example. If you want your car to last beyond that point, you're on your own. The reason I think this is also a possibility is because Subaru's end goal is customer satisfaction with vehicle reliability to the point where Subaru gets repeat business and good recommendations to other potential buyers. So, make a car that meets the majority of customer's expectations of low maintenance and good reliability (to a point) and you achieve both goals.
Let us know when you find out. I think maybe 2 people on the forum have done this so far.Anyway all I'm looking for is amount of fluid actually replaced and at what cost as it seams this does not fall into the DIY arena for several reasons and I would want the Subaru fluid (I'm not buying 5 gallons and storing the leftover fluid, my dealer stated the pail is something like $230 at their cost and not for resale anyway).
If and when mine gets changed, it will be me doing the changing. The only time I ever had a dealer change anything (20 plus years ago) I had to drain a quart out, when I got home. (Honda Accord).+1. I would much rather take my chances with what the factory put in my CVT then to have the dealer touch it.