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lol ok - to be fair and to contradict my word before - I am literally sitting next to an old Blue and White desktop Mac G3 - which I bought in 98 or 99 for an early audio Pro Tools system. It still seems to be working fine. Im about to sell it - checking it for issues. But, it was not really used for about a decade or more, just sat - and I do NOT have the same luck with laptops - which Ive gone through 3 PC laptops since the mid 90s, and now on my second macbook pro, I have carried them around every day to and from work for years, so that may be part of it.
I was being a bit facetious... the battery on my Toshiba has been dead for at least 5 years, so it's a non-portable portable. For actual work I use other computers.

I bought front and rear dashcams for my 2014, and the wiring and adhesives made a mess of the interior. And the rear cam failed after a short time, and I couldn't be bothered with troubleshooting it (I have enough gear to contend with at work). Hence my desire to have a factory solution, even if it is not the best technically. I just want video if somebody runs into me.
 

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I was being a bit facetious... the battery on my Toshiba has been dead for at least 5 years, so it's a non-portable portable. For actual work I use other computers.

I bought front and rear dashcams for my 2014, and the wiring and adhesives made a mess of the interior. And the rear cam failed after a short time, and I couldn't be bothered with troubleshooting it (I have enough gear to contend with at work). Hence my desire to have a factory solution, even if it is not the best technically. I just want video if somebody runs into me.
no, that's fair. I feel like eventually this will be something included in vehicles. I just wish they did a better job with tech like this already included.
 

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I was being a bit facetious... the battery on my Toshiba has been dead for at least 5 years, so it's a non-portable portable. For actual work I use other computers.

I bought front and rear dashcams for my 2014, and the wiring and adhesives made a mess of the interior. And the rear cam failed after a short time, and I couldn't be bothered with troubleshooting it (I have enough gear to contend with at work). Hence my desire to have a factory solution, even if it is not the best technically. I just want video if somebody runs into me.
If the wiring made a mess of the interior someone did something serious wrong. Other than the few inches of wires on both the front and rear camera there is. I wiring to be seen. And not sure what adhesives you were using but never had an issue with that either.
 

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I’ve installed four of these in my cars:
There are certainly cameras with better resolution & features, but for the cost/stealth/ease to wire this type of camera has performed great for me. It also has one of the smallest form factors of any camera, and features are easily modified via Mac or Windows software.
 

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If the wiring made a mess of the interior someone did something serious wrong. Other than the few inches of wires on both the front and rear camera there is. I wiring to be seen. And not sure what adhesives you were using but never had an issue with that either.
Lol, that someone would be me. I plead insanity, man. :) Anyway, you do have to run quite a few inches of wire for power and signal, and you or somebody else have to put that somewhere.
 

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When I first started looking at a 2020, I hoped the thing might offer a built in dashcam, since it's got digital video cameras front and rear. Is there something stopping Subaru from offering that?

PS: this is being typed on a 10 year old Toshiba laptop.
I hear you about the the front camera is already there, in some cases. Using this camera would be a down grade compared to a high mounted dash cam because of the low POV, and crappy 180 deg lens. That said, it would be better than nothing so maybe it will be offered in later years. It would also add to the manufacturing cost because of software, wiring and accommodation for a memory system. I can hear Subaru marketing debating the extra cost and benefits in a conference room now.
 

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I hear you about the the front camera is already there, in some cases. Using this camera would be a down grade compared to a high mounted dash cam because of the low POV, and crappy 180 deg lens. That said, it would be better than nothing so maybe it will be offered in later years. It would also add to the manufacturing cost because of software, wiring and accommodation for a memory system. I can hear Subaru marketing debating the extra cost and benefits in a conference room now.
Eyesight has two forward facing cameras that they could use.
 

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How cool would it be for car makers to put power ports up above the mirror or the top of the back window? So they don't have to do the dash camera or radar detector or gps but maybe a usb port is up there to power it.

Anyone find any "wireless" cams where the front and rear wifi to each other and all you have to do is some how power it??
 

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How cool would it be for car makers to put power ports up above the mirror or the top of the back window? So they don't have to do the dash camera or radar detector or gps but maybe a usb port is up there to power it.

Anyone find any "wireless" cams where the front and rear wifi to each other and all you have to do is some how power it??
Running a hidden power cord is not difficult. I am speaking from experience. I would rather NOT be forced to pay for that hidden cord in the sticker price. It becomes a warranty issue, which further increases the price Subaru must charge. Nothing is free.

I don’t have much interest in the front and rear cameras communicating wirelessly. They are performing separate tasks. Sure it would be nice to control the rear camera from up front, but Wifi/Bluetooth communication would be just another camera feature that will fail. I just want my cameras to record events flawlessly, which alone is a challenge the industry has not fully tackled.
 

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So I had the dash cam installed, now that I have had the windshield replaced - though after my road trip, I have to take it BACK to Subaru because the glass guys got some sort of glue in a few spots on the paint. I am NOT happy about such a sloppy job.
I did a lot of research on cams and I went with a pricier model because it seems to really hold up well.
I got the Blackvue DR900S-2CH W/ Power Magic Pro. Front and rear cameras. Its pretty top of the line, and comes with a hefty price as well, but rates as one of the best.
The power magic pro allows it to manage the battery power draw when in parking mode.
I had a local car audio shop Ive been talking to install it. I was very impressed with the 2 guys and they did a great job. I watched for a big as the installer tore apart the car, and was glad I had hired someone to do it. I dont have the time or patience or the tools to figure out how all those trim pieces come off from the rear of the car to the front. They made it look easy. I should have taken pics of this but didnt think of it and left to let them do their work in peace. The job took 3 installing both cams, and the Magic Pro box near the hood release lever, tying it into the main power.
I got it installed right behind the rear view mirror, down slightly so when I am driving, I cant even see it, so it doesn't block any part of my view.
I also set up the AT&T hot spot in the car (currently on the free trial) so I can use the parking mode with the cloud feature and try that out.
Im just not going to worry about the eyesight and positioning. I honestly have been turning most of it off now anyway.

Gonna give a plug for Frank and Howie at FS Audio in San Gabriel, a very clean and organized shop. They were fantastic.

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I have installed my front dashcam (temporarily while I get the hard wiring kit installed) here. EyeSight hasn't complained at all but the location does fall into the 'grey' area for the EyeSight cameras. Because my dashcam, the VIOFO A119 V3 can not swivel left to right (only up and down), Placing it on the outside of the EyeSight cameras cuts down the field of view of the dashcam on the opposite side of the car.
I own 2(front & rear) of the Viofo A119 V3 dashcams w/CPL filter and they're the best value dashcams I've owned so far. My previous cheap dashcams would go blurry when I drive on a road with lots of trees or under expose the footage during sunset.

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I have a Blackview 900s that I took off my trade. Deciding if I want to install or sell. Really dont wanna mess with the EyeSight and I hate wires showing too.
 

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I have a Blackview 900s that I took off my trade. Deciding if I want to install or sell. Really dont wanna mess with the EyeSight and I hate wires showing too.
I guess “trade” means your trade-in car. What car was that?
 

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I use an Escort M1 dash cam attached to my Escort iXc radar detector. Only requires one power connection for both units.

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I have a Blackview 900s that I took off my trade. Deciding if I want to install or sell. Really dont wanna mess with the EyeSight and I hate wires showing too.
I had the same camera installed (professionally)- here is mine. From the drivers position, I dont even see the camera, much less the wires.

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@Sequoia225 pretty sure that camera is in the no go zone. View attachment 477271
oh Im aware of the manual pictures. But since the Eyesight functions were misfiring already before the camera, and I am turning most of them off, I decided the camera is more important for me than the driver assist features.

Though I love the part where it says "for details contact a Subaru dealer" because when I did my meeting with the "love encore guy", I asked him about camera placement, and he pretty much seemed to not really know what the manual said or where dash cams should be, and ended up just saying "I think you pretty much cant use them.

No thanks. The camera and recording events in accidents to prove them, is WAY more important to me than the eyesight functions that have been more annoying then helpful.
The only one Im using these days is the adaptive cruise control and I just went on 2 long road trips and used it extensively in many different lighting conditions with the camera - and there were no issues. Anyway, Im a pretty active driver even when using that function.

Im not worries about any "reflection of objects". Stupid of Subaru to make all that space a no go zone in this day and age with cameras becoming more used in the US.

My relative is a car insurance adjuster. The stories she tells about how everyone lies and blames the other (never mind my wifes recent accident where there were overturned cars and such, and NO ONE admitted to making any mistakes) - the camera is way more important to me than the eyesight features.

Side note - that accident my wife was in - 4 cars, high speed on freeway, injuries, overturned cars, etc... the cop had a **** of a time figuring out how it all happened, and who to blame. No one would admit to any wrong doing, witnesses werent helpful at first. Weeks later a witness or 2 said some things that sort of helped pinpoint who started it all, making an unsafe lane change and then overcorrecting when there was a car in her way. But she denied it all. One other driver had no insurance and no license- Im sure he wasnt talking much. haha

So camera takes priority for me.
 

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I am reading about how those cameras with capacitors fail too. All these cameras are made cheaply in China. By the way, they only should be failing at the battery, but I am reading a lot about whole camera fails. I find that most people that post about their great experience have had their camera for just a few months. Or they live in mild environments. My summers regularly get to 105F (easily 160F at windshield), and my winter travels regularly get to 15F.
The better dashcams are made in Korea. I can also find reports of higher quality ones lasting 3-4 years, so it really depends on which camera you are looming at.

My summers are just as hot If not hotter than yours and the blackview I had lasted for 4 years. I would have kept using it, but it wasn’t mountable in my new car with the eyesight and my radar detector.
I have 2 Viofo cameras, one is 4 years old and one is brand new, they are quality products.

also when installing a rear cam, wire lube is your friend and removing the rubber wire conduits makes it easier to snake the wire through them.
 
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