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Won't be long before I'll need brake pads: front and/or back. Haven't yet examined them that closely but wondering if it'll be as easy as what I find for older years – for example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTvQX612yFI&list=RDNTvQX612yFI#t=53

Thought I recall a poster saying the rear pads are totally different on Gen5 and require extra steps. Maybe someone can clarify that. Rather not spend what my dealer wants if it can be done in house.
 

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I remember someone mentioning the same thing (about the backs being different) but the reasoning was the electric parking brake. I would think that it wouldn't affect the pads (due to it being actuated much before), but I can't be 100% sure.
 

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Are you beyond the 36k mile warranty? I believe it's been stated several times that the brake pads are a wear item under warranty and can be replaced under warranty, except in abusive driving situations.
 

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Are you beyond the 36k mile warranty? I believe it's been stated several times that the brake pads are a wear item under warranty and can be replaced under warranty, except in abusive driving situations.
No but I hit 21K this month which is I why I started thinking about them. So how long should the brake pads last on my subie?
 

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No but I hit 21K this month which is I why I started thinking about them. So how long should the brake pads last on my subie?
Every car is different, and entirely dependent on the driver. But I have never had a set of pads last less than 50k miles.

My '05 had the pads replaced by the last owner at 90k, and it has 150 on it now.
 

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My 2011 is just about to 50K miles and I think it's about time for new pads (hearing a grinding as I come to a stop). I won't get a chance to have them checked out for around a week though.
 

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Do somebody knows if you can push the rear piston caliper (using a c-clamp) without damaging the parking brake electric motor?
 

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This is from the 2016 Outback Factory Service Manual. It appears to me that you can. Information at the very end of the file.

Do somebody knows if you can push the rear piston caliper (using a c-clamp) without damaging the parking brake electric motor?
 

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pictures show what looks like a rather normal looking caliper with nothing preventing a normal c clamp from working, if they are pressed in pistons. a google/ebay search will bring some up.
 

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From the procedure provided in this thread, it asks to use the Subaru Select Monitor to set the brake in maintenance mode. I guess the maintenance mode retracts the rear break motor. Does anyone know which affordable system to use to do the same thing (retract the rear brake motor)? I am planning to replace the rear brake pads on my 2015 Subaru Legacy (Outback) soon.
 

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pictures show what looks like a rather normal looking caliper with nothing preventing a normal c clamp from working, if they are pressed in pistons. a google/ebay search will bring some up.
I have not done brakes on my Subaru, but the ******* in me uses a big screwdriver and the old brake pads to push the pistons back. Did that this morning on my Yamaha FJR1300 when I removed and reinstalled the front wheel using old brake pads. Calipers have to come off, left and right, because the space between is only about 1/3rd the width of the wheel.

On automobiles use the screwdriver between outside pad and outside caliper before removing from disc. Caliper comes off the disc easier when piston(s) are retracted.
 

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Ya know....when you get your pads replaced, you can replace them with 'lifetime' pads.

Why don't car makers install 'lifetime' pads at the factory?
 

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The Select Monitor operates the MC/ABS, per the 'Note' instructions it's not required. As for releasing the p-brake, you only do so when you remove the rotor, which you don't need to replace pads.
Go to Harbor Freight for an $8 piston compressor similar to the illustration.
 

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The Select Monitor operates the MC/ABS, per the 'Note' instructions it's not required. As for releasing the p-brake, you only do so when you remove the rotor, which you don't need to replace pads.
Go to Harbor Freight for an $8 piston compressor similar to the illustration.
This may be the case for 2014 or earlier Outback/Legacy. From 2015+, the rear break does not come with break shoes anymore, and it only has break pads. More importantly, 2015+ rear break has a motor gear like some European brands, e.g., Audi/VW, Volvo, etc.:

REAR BRAKE.. Fits: 2015 Subaru Legacy Limited Sedan w/EyeSight 2.5L CVT 4WD | Subaru Parts Online

To my understanding, the motor needs to be retracted before piston clamp can be used. Can someone offer some advises on this, especially on the rear break job on 2015+?
 

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This may be the case for 2014 or earlier Outback/Legacy. From 2015+, the rear break does not come with break shoes anymore, and it only has break pads. More importantly, 2015+ rear break has a motor gear like some European brands, e.g., Audi/VW, Volvo, etc.:

REAR BRAKE.. Fits: 2015 Subaru Legacy Limited Sedan w/EyeSight 2.5L CVT 4WD | Subaru Parts Online

To my understanding, the motor needs to be retracted before piston clamp can be used. Can someone offer some advises on this, especially on the rear break job on 2015+?
Read the "Note" part. The Subaru Select Monitor is not needed. Unless you've "set" the parking brake, the motor is retracted.
 

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Ya know....when you get your pads replaced, you can replace them with 'lifetime' pads.

Why don't car makers install 'lifetime' pads at the factory?
LIFETIME doesn't mean that one set of pads lasts forever, just that if you take them down to .0001-.0003" (exaggeration) they will supply a new set of pads. Not labor. In my experience. I am amazed somebody thinks pads need replacing at 25k - I've had Honda pads last well over 100k!
 

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LIFETIME doesn't mean that one set of pads lasts forever, just that if you take them down to .0001-.0003" (exaggeration) they will supply a new set of pads. Not labor. In my experience. I am amazed somebody thinks pads need replacing at 25k - I've had Honda pads last well over 100k!
"Lifetime" is often a self-fulfilling prophecy. The part kills you as it fails.

Steel pads on a steel rotor will last a long time, but not stop the vehicle very well. Lots of damage to the rotor. When selecting brake pads one must consider fiction properties, and brake rotor wear. Would you rather replace pads and rotor every time, or maybe 3 pads per rotor?

30 years ago 30k miles was a long time for brake pads to last.
 
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