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I find it surprising to hear of an unauthorized entry of a locked vehicle via a cloned remote.
I suppose it's possible but me thinks dealer and SOA files would have to be accessed to make a remote to open your car. Then the thief would have to know where the car is to use the remote.
Are both of your remotes in known locations? Did anyone have access to them without your knowledge? Is the remote left in a gym locker or desk at work??
What was stolen and where was the car? Time of day the theft happened?
Was the car in for service recently? Dishonest shop could have rigged up something.
Is it possible the theft occurred before you noticed it?
Sorry, just thinking like a cop.
I suppose it's possible but me thinks dealer and SOA files would have to be accessed to make a remote to open your car. Then the thief would have to know where the car is to use the remote.
Are both of your remotes in known locations? Did anyone have access to them without your knowledge? Is the remote left in a gym locker or desk at work??
What was stolen and where was the car? Time of day the theft happened?
Was the car in for service recently? Dishonest shop could have rigged up something.
Is it possible the theft occurred before you noticed it?
Sorry, just thinking like a cop.
Sorry, but the basic question is "Was the car actually locked"? I ask because sometimes, the "unlock" feature is accidentally triggered when placing the key in the pocket or purse - happened to me a couple of times. The thief may have been good enough to lock it after the event so that it looked "odd" to you after the fact.
Unfortunately - most likely.
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You've apparently not heard about BMW's being taken in 3 minutes or less.
Since 2006, BMW's have been equipped with software on their on board computers to reprogram blank keys. The hackers/theives found out about it and have been having a field day(s).
I'd like to know what was stolen. Most crimes are either random smash-and -grab or planned. (as in, they saw something inside worth taking, the car was unlocked etc. or there was something specific they were after and premeditated the theft.) A code scanner or keyless hack seems awfully sophisticated for a random car break-in. (and not taking the whole car) If they just went through the glove box or grabbed a cell phone, I'm betting it was accidentally left unlocked/unsecured.
Probably a good idea to NOT get one of the NFC based keyless entry systems. NFC chips, such as the one in your passport, smartphone or CC can be sniffed out by certain apps or devices. This can only be done in close proximity, but it's still possible, and once the data packet is emitted from the NFC chip, it's recorded..like an awesome 90's mix-tape. Unfortunately, this recording can open your car door.
Theoretical rant, but you never know right?
Theoretical rant, but you never know right?
The car was parked at the Oxford Suites hotel in Redding CA.
Yes, it was locked pror to leaving the vehicle unattended for the evening.
Items stolen included a pair of percsription sunglasses from the eye glass holder above the dash and a coin purse from the consol box which included drivers license and about 20 bucks.
Items left in the rear of the car included a load of recently purchased items from Costco and a nice leather jacket.
To me it seems as though someone triggered the door locks and grabbed the first things they came upon and ran as they were in a hurry.
Low life thieving sons of bitches.
Yes, it was locked pror to leaving the vehicle unattended for the evening.
Items stolen included a pair of percsription sunglasses from the eye glass holder above the dash and a coin purse from the consol box which included drivers license and about 20 bucks.
Items left in the rear of the car included a load of recently purchased items from Costco and a nice leather jacket.
To me it seems as though someone triggered the door locks and grabbed the first things they came upon and ran as they were in a hurry.
Low life thieving sons of bitches.
It should be noted that the Outback was used as a demonstration at those hacking demonstrations a while back. They had to flood the connections though from what I read. Just Google it.
That's not to say they've distributed the code and what not but it can be done. It just doesn't sound like something a "normal" thief would use. The dealer isn't able to check the times when the remote was used at all?
That's not to say they've distributed the code and what not but it can be done. It just doesn't sound like something a "normal" thief would use. The dealer isn't able to check the times when the remote was used at all?
With all due respect to the OP and the rest of you, it's more likely the car was left open or they used a slimjim.
snopes.com: Code Grabbers and Remote Keyless Entry
It's technically possible to get in this way but it simply takes too long on new models. Most cars now use even more enhanced security by requiring a frequency and a code which can't be picked up over air. The code is only available during programming. I do now wonder if Subaru's system utilized that technology.
However, if they want to get in they will find a way.
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/br...ack-wireless-security-codes/story?id=17367442
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9623150/Lock-jammers-steal-cars-in-a-click.html
http://www.mnn.com/green-tech/trans...ized-cars-are-easy-prey-for-high-tech-thieves
snopes.com: Code Grabbers and Remote Keyless Entry
It's technically possible to get in this way but it simply takes too long on new models. Most cars now use even more enhanced security by requiring a frequency and a code which can't be picked up over air. The code is only available during programming. I do now wonder if Subaru's system utilized that technology.
However, if they want to get in they will find a way.
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/br...ack-wireless-security-codes/story?id=17367442
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9623150/Lock-jammers-steal-cars-in-a-click.html
http://www.mnn.com/green-tech/trans...ized-cars-are-easy-prey-for-high-tech-thieves
I locked my keys in my old car. Security guard was able to open the car within a minute or so leaving no damage whatsoever. So what's stopping thieves. Don't leave stuff in your car people!
All that is left in my car is about a dollar in quarters (in plain sight too), my manual, and some gum. Come steal it =P
All that is left in my car is about a dollar in quarters (in plain sight too), my manual, and some gum. Come steal it =P
How did security guard do it ?........................very strange...........or...............bad security system ?
I'm with you, I RARELY leave anything in the vehicle, and if I do it's hidden in the console or under the rear load floor. Out of sight, out of mind.
Since the OP is certain that the car was locked, I am betting slim jim was used. If done with any skill at all, it only takes a few seconds, and does no discernable damage. I also would suspect that yours was not the only car targeted.
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