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Hi all
I've been lurking in the background for some time now. Our 1st Subaru!
We bought our 2012 Outback Premium PZEV CVT in Feb.
I've noticed something strange. Maybe someone can answer this question.
When we drive down a hill, at about 45-50 MPH, @ 2000 RPM, now I let off of the gas, to slow down. It seems as though the engine is still pushing. I step on the brake, but the RPM's don't drop right away. Kind of like your powerbraking it!
Just the other day, I noticed it doing it up hill. I let off the gas pedal and the car is still pulling, and the RPM's don't drop until I apply the brakes. This is going up hill mind you!
I had taken the OB to the dealer a month ago. They said this is normal.
Now, I have an appt. for this afternoon because of the going up hill throttle hanging up!
Has anyone experienced this problem?
Any ideas what's going on?
Or is this normal delay, because of drive by wire?
Vehicle is a 2012 OB Premium/CVT/2.5
5000 miles, mostly short around town hops.
Thanks for any help!
 

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Get documentation!

All I can say is to be sure you have everything well-documented by the Service Department and be sure you have a copy of the well-documented problem!
 

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Hi all
I've been lurking in the background for some time now. Our 1st Subaru!
We bought our 2012 Outback Premium PZEV CVT in Feb.
I've noticed something strange. Maybe someone can answer this question.
When we drive down a hill, at about 45-50 MPH, @ 2000 RPM, now I let off of the gas, to slow down. It seems as though the engine is still pushing. I step on the brake, but the RPM's don't drop right away. Kind of like your powerbraking it!
Just the other day, I noticed it doing it up hill. I let off the gas pedal and the car is still pulling, and the RPM's don't drop until I apply the brakes. This is going up hill mind you!
I had taken the OB to the dealer a month ago. They said this is normal.
Now, I have an appt. for this afternoon because of the going up hill throttle hanging up!
Has anyone experienced this problem?
Any ideas what's going on?
Or is this normal delay, because of drive by wire?
Vehicle is a 2012 OB Premium/CVT/2.5
5000 miles, mostly short around town hops.
Thanks for any help!
I had a 2010 PZEV Legacy and she did exactly the same things.
I agree that it can appear weird, but it seems to be inherent to the PZEV system, because my new '12 Non-Pzev-Outback don't have this behavior anymore.
 

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Part of the emissions being lowered happens because the throttle does not chop closed, it lets of gradually. It doesn't help driveability, though.
 

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I have document from the 1st time we took it back, and will again today.

Gibe 54
So your saying this is normal?
 

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Thanks everyone!
The tech is going for a ride with me today. Hopefully I can duplicate the issue.
 

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All new cars with electronic nanny between your foot and the physical throttle body on the engine - do this.

By limiting the abrupt throttle inputs auto makers are able to improve emissions in a big way.
 

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All new cars with electronic nanny between your foot and the physical throttle body on the engine - do this.

By limiting the abrupt throttle inputs auto makers are able to improve emissions in a big way.
Some are worse than others. The Outback with the MT is not great. My 2011 Mazda 2 rev hangs a little but not enough to ruin the driving experience of the slick 5 speed. Even my '87 BRAT did it with a carb. Had to disconnect a few vacuum lines to make it quit.
 

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I took the Tech for a ride today. He saw that something isn't quite right.
We went up a hill at around 2000 rpm, I let off the gas, the vehicle slowed, but the tach stayed at 2000 rpm for a good 6-8 seconds before it began to drop.
I have an appt for monday. They said they need to do more diagnostic tests. I hope it can be remedied!
Any ideas out there?
Thanks
 

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I took the Tech for a ride today. He saw that something isn't quite right.
We went up a hill at around 2000 rpm, I let off the gas, the vehicle slowed, but the tach stayed at 2000 rpm for a good 6-8 seconds before it began to drop.
I have an appt for monday. They said they need to do more diagnostic tests. I hope it can be remedied!
Any ideas out there?
Thanks
Very interesting... my former 2010 Legacy (pzev) had exactly same behavior.
I never thought that it was an issue.
 
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