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Short version: We both got the correct car for our needs

My friend, Wayne, and I bought our Outbacks within about 6 weeks of each other and here is our opinion. We both are in our 50’s and live in Central Minnesota.

Wayne had a Ford Focus which was written off in January after an accident in snow. He decided that he wanted a slightly larger, safe car with 4wd or AWD. However, since his daily commute is about 50 miles each way, comfort and fuel economy were of high importance for him. The larger SUVs and trucks were not economic, while the smaller SUVs and cross-overs were not large enough. The Subaru Outback and Forester fell right in his sweet-spot. After driving both, he decided on the Outback 2.5i Premium. He would have bought the base model but decided to go for the heated seats.

I had a Dodge Durango with a huge V-8 that was getting uneconomic to repair. I work out of a home office and my daily commute is walking down two sets of stairs to my basement. We have a boat and the last mile or so to our favorite lake is unpaved so can be muddy when wet. We have bikes, a canoe and also go camping. We used to live in Colorado and still go back often to the Rocky Mountain National Park and the high country. After the Durango, gas mileage was relatively unimportant to use; comfort, space and ability to tow our 2,100lb boat and trailer is important. I chose the 3.6R Limited with ES and Nav.

Wayne and I have driven each other’s cars. He likes the smoothness of the H6. Eyesight and Nav was a “nice” feature but totally an unnecessary expense for him. For his high mileage daily commute, Wayne needs more than the 25 mpg that I get. On his car, he regularly gets around 32mpg.

Even though both cars have the same towing capacity, I just felt that the H6 would be more relaxed. Could I have bought the 4-cyl instead? Yes! It is cheaper and more economic. However, I am fortunate enough to be able to afford to pay the extra and since a large percent of my driving is highway, the gas mileage figure was less important.

I fully expect to keep this car for another 15-20 years – note, my Durango was 18 before I traded it. So paying for the extra “toys” was worth it for me. Wayne on the other hand needs a commuter work horse and at around 30,000+ miles per year will probably keep his for around 5 years at most.

Why didn’t I choose the Touring trim instead? I already have a roof rack for the canoe that conveniently fit on the standard roof rails. With the Touring, I’d have to pay extra for adapters or buy a whole new system. But the real reason is because my wife didn’t like the color options in the Touring trim. HWHL! :grin2:
 

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this could probably get merged onto one of the other threads.

but why look for one,...that takes too much time.
 

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There are seriously only about 10-20 threads that need to exist here. There rest could honestly be merged with them.
 

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I believe the 6 cylinder has 300 lbs more towing capacity than the 4 cylinder. 3,000 vs 2,700.

I think the Premium trim level + Eyesight is the sweet spot for the car. If I had a big commute, that's what I'd be driving. Better fuel economy. $10K less depreciation after I trash it with all those miles.
 

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To be honest, if Subaru makes an STi version of Outback, like a raptor wagon or sort, I mean they have the parts in their parts bin to make one.

- Long travel suspension
- Recaro seats from STi
- New STi brakes
- Throw in the new 2.4L turbo engine, not greedy, I don't care how much power as long it can do 13s in the 1/4
- Auto is fine with me
- LSD all the way around.

I'll be first at the door to put deposit down.
 
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To be honest, if Subaru makes an STi version of Outback, like a raptor wagon or sort, I mean they have the parts in their parts bin to make one.

- Long travel suspension
- Recaro seats from STi
- New STi brakes
- Throw in the new 2.4L turbo engine, not greedy, I don't care how much power as long it can do 13s in the 1/4
- Auto is fine with me
- LSD all the way around.

I'll be first at the door to put deposit down.
So... basically...


That car would definitely end the 4 vs 6 debates.
 

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hehe, I"d say that's 8.5 or 9 out of 10, Raptor is like a solid 9.5

For 11, I can imagine something that'll be faster than an AMG GLC63, so 11s in the 1/4, while on All Terrain tires! and tops out at 155mph!

but then it'll be a $90k Wagon and no one buys one.
 

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I had 14 years driving turbos that required at least 91 octane fuel. The price spread around me from 87 octane to 91 octane is now 50 cents at most gas stations. 2 1/2 years ago, part of my must-have list was a car that didn't lose fuel economy or power with 87 octane fuel. The 3.6R is cheaper per mile than a turbo that gets 33 mpg with that kind of price spread on 91 octane fuel.

A turbo plug in electric hybrid would be interesting. A straight turbo doesn't do it for me.
 

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Merge with mega thread in irreconcilable differences?
I was going to leave it to someone with a gen5 to see if they wanted to keep it with a gen5 discussion.
 

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I believe the 6 cylinder has 300 lbs more towing capacity than the 4 cylinder. 3,000 vs 2,700.

I think the Premium trim level + Eyesight is the sweet spot for the car. If I had a big commute, that's what I'd be driving. Better fuel economy. $10K less depreciation after I trash it with all those miles.
Not sure Eyesight is useful in all commuting scenarios. I am stop and go in NYC for about an hour or more, twice a day, probably avg. 18 mph. I don't think Eyesight deals well with that kind of driving, thus skipped this trim level and went to a Premium. As well I'm old school and like to pay attention on longer drives, thus didn't see the need. The item I wanted and didn't get were lane change warning. I didn't want the power lift gate.
 

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Not sure Eyesight is useful in all commuting scenarios. I am stop and go in NYC for about an hour or more, twice a day, probably avg. 18 mph. I don't think Eyesight deals well with that kind of driving, thus skipped this trim level and went to a Premium. As well I'm old school and like to pay attention on longer drives, thus didn't see the need. The item I wanted and didn't get were lane change warning. I didn't want the power lift gate.
Nobody is attentive 100% of the time in stop & go driving. Eyesight might save you from rear ending somebody. It's not just adaptive cruise control. It's also a collision warning and braking system.

I like adaptive cruise control because it allows me to move my legs around on long drives. I'm a pilot. I use autopilot all the time to lighten the work load and take my feet off the pedals to keep some circulation. Can I fly straight & level and maintain a course? Sure. But why would I? I don't use autopilot in the pattern just like I don't use Eyesight in stop & go.
 

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Well said??

Laughing at oneself and with others is good for the Soul!?
 

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I will burn every 4 vs 6 cylinder thread to the ground since every one knows the 6 is better.
and how many subaru H4s did you have

like 4 ?

even a pokey crosstrek with 140hp on a 2.0 CVT? ...
 

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and how many subaru H4s did you have

like 4 ?

even a pokey crosstrek with 140hp on a 2.0 CVT? ...
Exactly. It's why I'm such an expert on them. (;

I'm surprised you even remembered the 99 Outback Sport I owned for like a month. It had a hole in the block.
 

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Exactly. It's why I'm such an expert on them. (;

I'm surprised you even remembered the 99 Outback Sport I owned for like a month. It had a hole in the block.
I was counting the

green 2000 outback legacy wagon, with the front plastic pumper extension / disc wheel covers,...trying to eek out 1 more mpg.

the green 2.5 2004 impreza outback sport that was just wrecked.

the crosstrek in pumpkin orange, (obvious early adopter,...early regret buy)

and this present day thing you got now,


plus a pokey plain jane baja.

I mean you got married, the cars are yours too. (like children / puppies).

so is that like 6 subarus????

any more from your child hood.? (at least one subaru has been parked under my butt since 1982-1983, and including all those since I was a kid I got 6).
 

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I was counting the

green 2000 outback legacy wagon, with the front plastic pumper extension / disc wheel covers,...trying to eek out 1 more mpg.

the green 2.5 2004 impreza outback sport that was just wrecked.

the crosstrek in pumpkin orange, (obvious early adopter,...early regret buy)

and this present day thing you got now,


plus a pokey plain jane baja.

I mean you got married, the cars are yours too. (like children / puppies).

so is that like 6 subarus????

any more from your child hood.? (at least one subaru has been parked under my butt since 1982-1983, and including all those since I was a kid I got 6).
Oh. More like 6 or 7 then. No wait, 8. The ones you listed plus the 99 Outback sport. There was a Forester in there some where too. Big sunroof.

Currently driving a 6 cyl gen 5 limited with eye sight.

Just rolled over 20000 miles.

It would be Subaru #9 depending on how you're counting it.
 
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