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I am looking at trading my 2009 forester in on a new 2013 outback. I am new to this forum. I have decided on the 2.5 limited and can not make up my mind on the eyesight feature. I do realize I have to get roof/nav/eyesight which is fine. My question is how well does it work?? Do you think it was worth getting?? I am looking for comments from people who own a 2013 with eyesight. Thanks for any help
 

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I love it! I just bought it so keep that in mind.

I drove 7 hrs yesterday and the adaptive cruise control really comes in handy. If you like using cruise on the highway, imagine your next car not offering cruise. That about sums up the difference between adaptive cruise and regular cruise for me. As a convenience feature, it's great. I would pay at least $500 for this feature alone and I'm a cheap SOB. (note that I was driving a 12-yr old Outback exclusively up until a few weeks ago, despite being a station in life that permits otherwise)

Fortunately, I haven't had to use the safety feature much. The lane departure will alert if I stray while trying to reach something in the back seat (in other words, it works as intended). I got my first look at the collision avoidance feature about an hour ago when a pedestrian took her time crossing the street well after the light changed and I idled towards her. It alerted me that an object was in my path but I wasnt close enough for it to engage braking.

One reason I like the Outback is its many safety features. To me, AWD is a safety feature that provides versatility (read: goes where other cars don't) as a bonus. EyeSight, similarly, offers enhanced safety and convenience is the bonus.
 

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I've listed some functioning details in the 13 thread if you want to search my posts. Bottom line is I'm impressed with how well they designed this. The way it behaves and doesn't freak out, only makes decisions if its sure...etc really has me liking it. At invoice its only $2400 more than the moonroof which we were going to get anyway. Now that we have it we don't regret it one bit. I didn't need NAV at all but I enjoy the audio interface more and the backup camera. I'll use the NAV for navigating maybe once a year....oh well.
 

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Very good for trips

I have had the vehicle for a week or so and have used the feature in lots of situations. I have even had some fun to see how long I could go without touching the pedals, and the secret is to avoid stop signs and not be the first in line at a traffic light.

I give the adaptive cruise very high marks, and the lane departure is fine but I find that it goes off when I know what I am doing, so it will probably encourage me to use my blinker more often. The accident avoidance sometimes signals but I have not tried to test this aspect of the system.

The only weakness is that it doesn't look as far ahead for stopped traffic as a driver, so sometimes approaches stopped traffic at a higher speed than you would, but it does stop in time. Other than this example, the braking and accelerating are very smooth, and it is perfectly mated to the CVT transmission as it helps to slow and speed the car without any shifts.

I think the system is well worth the money.
 

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I made the mistake of driving a Limited with this feature at my local dealer (I really think they're getting sick of me at this point). I really liked it... like, a lot.
I told myself I'd never own a car without rain sensing wipers again after owning my 300c for over 5 years, but this is a pretty fair tradeoff ;)
 

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I tested this system extensively before ordering and EyeSight is a system that is well worth the money. The system reacts as fast as it needs to react but in most situations it is smooth and gradual with no sudden inputs (excluding a case where you are going to run into someone).
We ordered the Outback knowing that we have no use for the moon roof or nav because this feature is very compelling for anyone driving a lot. If you are just around town and don't put a lot of miles on a car you might reconsider but for us it was a slam dunk.
As a side note the improved Harmon Karden sound system with nav is superior to what comes stock and the nav will be an added bonus so all in all we liked the EyeSight system and I think it is well implemented by Subaru...
 

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A few questions... First, minor issue - it appears the mounted cameras do away with the nifty eyeglass holder. (Minimal issue but I do love that thing...) J

Just came from a dealer who is clearly not up on this feature so the demo was lacking. I did not get a sense of whether or not this is a feature that you turn on or is always on. I did get the impression that it is a set of features (adaptive cruise, lane detection, emergency stopping - have I left something out?).

Again, the dealer was little help though they did try to downplay it - new technology, lots of things to worry about. (Car wash, etc.) Those of you who have this - do you find the care and feeding burdensome? Worth the trouble?

Thanks for any insight. My daughter was in a head on in my 2011 Outback last weekend and walked away with bruises. Thus, I will be buying another one. But I'm trying to get a sense if this package is more hype than help. Given the accident, I'm inclined to go with it. Opinions appreciated!
 

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I think it's fantastic. Now that I have it, I don't think I will buy another car without it. Not only for the safety aspect, but just the reduction of stress on the open road and in slow stop and go traffic, makes it worthwhile for me. I especially love how it can judge how hard someone is breaking better than I can. The adaptive cruise control is something you turn on. The other features are on unless you turn them off.

All the naysayers that I've read are from people who don't own it. Most of the complaints seem to be that it doesn't work in all conditions. That's true because the camera's can't react to what it can't see and the car doesn't have sensors to adjust for varying stopping distances due to conditions. But, if you don't own it, it doesn't work in any conditions!
 

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Thanks, basketballfan. Can you speak to the care and feeding? No car washes? What other things do you need to be aware of in terms of care of the car to not mess up the Eyesight?

(And, of course, there is the all important question: eyeglass holder or no? :) )

Thanks for your response!
 

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I have had my OB with Eyesight for just over 2 weeks now and the system is nice in slow and go traffic on the way to work, I have been using it almost every day since I got the car and my only complaint is that it seems to be over aggressive on the brakes and slows the car down more than it needs to most of the time. I tend to set it at the closest following distance that it allows and each time the car ahead of me slows down, the gap between me and that car grows quite a bit which seems to invite people to dive between us causing the car to slow down even more.

With that being said, I am glad I have it and will continue to use it on longer drives, but I will probably use it less in stop and go traffic.
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There is no eyeglasses holder but I have never had one in any of my other cars so I do not miss it.
 

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Thanks, basketballfan. Can you speak to the care and feeding? No car washes? What other things do you need to be aware of in terms of care of the car to not mess up the Eyesight?

(And, of course, there is the all important question: eyeglass holder or no? :) )

Thanks for your response!
Car washes should be okay. However, when cleaning the inside glass you want to spray the cloth you're using, NOT the window.

Also, watch out for new passengers in your car. If ONE MORE PERSON sticks their fingers up in the camera's area, I'm cutting fingers off. Thankfully, the lenses are rescessed, so it is kinda hard to actually touch the lenses.

Eyesight won't work when direct sunlight is shining into the wind shield and if you're in a monsoon, eyesight checks out and go on vacation.

There's a nice cubby right in front of the shifter for your glasses to rest.
 

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Washing the car is not a problem at all. As others said spray your rag not the glass on the inside.

Eyesight is not really meant to be used in stop and go traffic, I've used it to but it was more so just for fun. Eyesight isn't going to see the brake lights a few cars ahead that I see so it can't fully replicate that type of driving smoothness and anticipation. It will however keep me from rear ending someone if I do something stupid.

In regards to it not working in bad conditions its not really a big deal because these are the times you should be on hyper guard anyway. I wish it worked in bright sunlight but then it would need to be radar based which would cost more and would not recognize pedestrians. If you're already in for a limited with moonroof its worth the cost. If I hadn't wanted the moonroof it would be harder to spend $3200-$3600 (invoice cost) for just that feature.
 

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OP the Eye Sight system must be turned on each time but the lane departure is on automatically unless you deselect it. I agree that the ES does apply brakes a little too agressively but better than being timid.
This is NOT a new system except for us. In Japan this system has been in operation for 6 years now.
Also as mentioned it is not perfect but as close to useful as I want. Frankly if rain is beating down on my windshield I don't want my autopilot to be fat dumb and happy. This is where judgement comes into play.
So far I have not had it disconnect but then I have not driven in all conditions. Light to moderate rain have no real affect just as it would not for you driving regarding visibility...
 

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OP the Eye Sight system must be turned on each time but the lane departure is on automatically unless you deselect it. I agree that the ES does apply brakes a little too agressively but better than being timid.
This is NOT a new system except for us. In Japan this system has been in operation for 6 years now.
Also as mentioned it is not perfect but as close to useful as I want. Frankly if rain is beating down on my windshield I don't want my autopilot to be fat dumb and happy. This is where judgement comes into play.
So far I have not had it disconnect but then I have not driven in all conditions. Light to moderate rain have no real affect just as it would not for you driving regarding visibility...
I think you mean it has to be turned on for cruise control, right?

ES is on all the time with regards to lane departure, collision avoidance, etc.
 

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Lane departure yes but not sure about collision avoidance. I am going to check my manual because I didn't think it was active in other but cruise control.
If it is that would be that much better...
Page 17 does state that you have to actively turn the pre-collision braking off so Tom28 is right the system will stay engaged (except for Active Cruise Control) when driving it. Active Cruise Control does require you to engage it....
 

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Eyesight is on when you start the car, yes. Lane departure and collision avoidance are on when the car is started. I know because I've never had to activate it after getting in and it works on the road.
For instance, if a vehicle a little bit ahead of you is turning right and you're coming up on them as they slow, it will sound if I don't take my foot off the gas or hit the brakes. I can see that I don't need to hit the brakes judging by the turn point, their speed, etc. but the car is still seeing them as an object in my path. Pretty cool especially if you're not paying attention. But I'm sure none of us text and drive, right? ;)
 

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Can you speak to the care and feeding? No car washes? What other things do you need to be aware of in terms of care of the car to not mess up the Eyesight?

(And, of course, there is the all important question: eyeglass holder or no? :) )
What makes you think "no car washes"? I use car washes all the time and treat my 2013 with EyeSight no differently than my 2010 OB and Legacy.
Also what "care and feeding"? I guess I can speak to that. There are none.
Plus my wife found plenty of other places for her sunglasses. I told her I could put a small holder between and EyeSight switches and the mirror if she wanted to keep the holder in the same area but she thought it wasn't necessary.
 
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