find engine serial number from chassis number

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kammerjaeger

Discussion Starter · May 18, 2018

Hello my fellow subaru drivers

The engine of my Subaru Outback 2007 (2.5l) is defective, so I was looking for a spare part and I found one. The vendor told me from what car he uninstalled the engine, but it seems he's not remembering correctly because the car he said the engine is from is a Subaru Impreza 2.5 RS, but the engine has only 2 camshafts and no turbo. Therefore I would like to find the serial number of the engine originally installed in the car I saw. I have a chassis number and an engine serial number.

Since I'm from Switzerland, my mechanics can only find out the engine serial number for cars sold in Europe. Since this car was sold in the US and then shipped to Europe, I'm looking for anyone who can help me finding this information for Subarus sold in the US.

The Chassis number is
JF1GG67535G814081

So if there's anyone who can tell me the serial number of the engine originally installed to this car, I would appreciate very much.

Thank you in advance

Michael

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johnre

· #2 · May 18, 2018

kammerjaeger said:
The Chassis number is
JF1GG67535G814081

Per https://www.dmv.org/vehicle-history/vin-decoder.php, you gave us the Impreza chassis number, not the Outback. These were manufactured in Japan, which it says on the label you photographed:

Decoded VIN: Make: SUBARU
Manufacturer Name: FUJI HEAVY INDUSTRIES U.S.A., INC. (C/O SUBARU OF AMERICA)
Model: Impreza
Model Year: 2005
Series: RS
Vehicle Type: PASSENGER CAR
Plant Company Name: Fuji Heavy Industries
Body Class: Wagon
Body Class: Sport Utility Vehicle (SUV)/Multi Purpose Vehicle (MPV)
Doors: 4
Transmission Style: Manual/Standard
Transmission Speeds: 5
Drive Type: AWD/All Wheel Drive
Displacement (CC): 2500
Displacement (CI): 152.559360236
Displacement (L): 2.500000
Seat Belts Type: Manual
Front Air Bag Locations: 1st Row (Driver & Passenger)

If you wanted the turbo XT engine, you want a code EJ257 engine (2.5 litre, DOHC 16-valve turbo).

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miker104

· #3 · May 18, 2018

I believe the OP is trying to verify what engine was originally installed in the donor Impreza which is why he sent the Impreza VIN. Were Turbo engines ever installed in Outbacks sold in the US?

Yep, answered my own question. 2007 OBW did have the option for a turbo, Outback XT Turbo model on cars101.com

eagleeye

· #4 · May 18, 2018

Impreza Outback Sport.? edit: or a RS / TS wagon with a couple "outback" logos on it?

and a 2005 US spec may have unique engine to that particular model year.
(last of the old short blocks with the first of the new style heads).

edit: oh that is the vin off the car in the junk yard pics there.

what is the vin off your 2007? (the swap from those 2 cars is not good / easy/ typical/ advisable).

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kammerjaeger

Discussion Starter · #5 · May 19, 2018

johnre said:
you gave us the Impreza chassis number, not the Outback. These were manufactured in Japan, which it says on

right. what does that mean? Are Subarus sold in the US not manufactured in Japan?

eagleeye

· #6 · May 19, 2018

kammerjaeger said:
right. what does that mean? Are Subarus sold in the US not manufactured in Japan?

from 2000-2009 US spec years:

legacy, legacy outbacks, and big tribeca = made in Indiana from mostly japanese parts.

impreza, impreza outback sports, and foresters.....all of them are made in japan and imported to the US.

kammerjaeger

Discussion Starter · #7 · May 19, 2018

miker104 said:
I believe the OP is trying to verify what engine was originally installed in the donor Impreza which is why he sent the Impreza VIN

exactly

Were Turbo engines ever installed in Outbacks sold in the US?

I need an engine without a turbo.

let me make it more clear what I need:
As you saw, I found an engine on a junk yard. For this engine, I would like to know what car models it would fit in.

Since this seems to be impossible, I would like to find out what exact engine (serial number) was originally installed in the Impreza that I found on the junk yard. This way I could tell whether or not the engine from the junk yard is from the Impreza. Because if so, the engine would definitely not fit.

kammerjaeger

Discussion Starter · #8 · May 19, 2018

eagleeye said:
what is the vin off your 2007? (the swap from those 2 cars is not good / easy/ typical/ advisable).

JF1BP9LKB7G079494

eagleeye said:
the swap from those 2 cars is not good / easy/ typical/ advisable.

I'm completely aware of that and what I try is to make sure the engine I found is not from the Impreza, see my update in the last post

johnre

· #9 · May 19, 2018

kammerjaeger said:
right. what does that mean? Are Subarus sold in the US not manufactured in Japan?

I believed that you were stating that this was the Outback chassis number. It wasn't, it was the Impreza. Now it's clear what you meant.

eagleeye

· #10 · May 19, 2018

kammerjaeger said:
JF1BP9LKB7G079494

I'm completely aware of that and what I try is to make sure the engine I found is not from the Impreza, see my update in the last post

J = made in japan,
F = fuji heavy industries

BP = with a L = legacy outback wagon.

9 2.5 liter engine. for that year. ?

7 = 2007.

G = manual trans for japanese assembled cars.

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do you have pics of that engine in the car. with the plastic air box on top?

I am thinking it maybe some kind of EJ251

vs. the EJ253 that were sold in the USA at the time.

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kammerjaeger

Discussion Starter · #11 · May 19, 2018

eagleeye said:
J = made in japan,
F = fuji heavy industries

BP = with a L = legacy outback wagon.

9 2.5 liter engine. for that year. ?

7 = 2007.

G = manual trans for japanese assembled cars.

thanks for that

do you have pics of that engine in the car. with the plastic air box on top?

when the engine was installed? No, unfortunately not

I am thinking it maybe some kind of EJ251

vs. the EJ253 that were sold in the USA at the time.

yeah, I have an EJ253 in my outback. Is EJ251 a turbo engine? or might it fit?

eagleeye

· #12 · May 19, 2018

kammerjaeger said:
thanks for that

when the engine was installed? No, unfortunately not

yeah, I have an EJ253 in my outback. Is EJ251 a turbo engine? or might it fit?

turbos are either EJ255 or EJ257

a EJ251 is the older variety typically found in 2000-2004, although some may have persisted into later bodies.

I have seen pics of them in a BP body like yours in pics here. that one was in Australia.

and it may have been a used japanese then exported,...used with the EJ251 in it originally, ...or placed in it later. (with a matching ECU).

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here are pics of each. notice the differences in the plastic airboxes:

this is a EJ251:

and this is a EJ253: (sometimes some minor variation, but overall the same)

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kammerjaeger

Discussion Starter · #13 · May 19, 2018

eagleeye said:
turbos are either EJ255 or EJ257

a EJ251 is the older variety typically found in 2000-2004, although some may have persisted into later bodies.

so the engine I posted is definitely not from the Impreza RS?

plastic airboxes:

would you mind to point at them? sorry :|

eagleeye

· #14 · May 19, 2018

kammerjaeger said:
so the engine I posted is definitely not from the Impreza RS?

would you mind to point at them? sorry :|

the large black plastic air box = where the air filter locks into between the metal intake and the wind shield.

taking a 2005 engine and putting it in 2007 is not a good idea.

eagleeye

· #15 · May 19, 2018

what I think you are looking for is a 2006-2008 EJ253 with a metal intake from a legacy or legacy outback. ...subaru made incremental changes over those years though. SO they may not all be made alike.

and keep your original engine as you may need parts off it to transfer to the one you buy.
(grabbing thing from different years/ different cars/ different transmissions yields minor changes in parts. ).

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what that impreza engine maybe in the first post: a world spec 2004/ US spec 2005, single year odd ball.
(that is only good for that year, with strange parts / settings that your car will not like....so pretty much forget about that one)

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BUT more research needs to be done.

can you look at the build plate on the shock tower in front of the driver and take a pic of it? (where the top of the shock/ strut mounts) you can see the plate while standing next to the fender with the hood open.

there is a engine and trans # on that plate. (and your 2007 could have unique limiting what goes in there. later or earlier).

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