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MY BIG CONCERN THAT SOA AND DEALER AND BODY SHOP DANCE AROUND IS WITH UNIBODY DAMAGE WILL MY TIRES WEAR UNEVEN? I believe it does or it did when frame was damage in older cars. I AM VERY WORRIED BEING THAT IT IS AN AWD AND I CANNOT AFFORD TO REPLACE EVERYTIME THERES UNEVEN WEAR RELATED TO UNIBODY DAMAGE.
ANY ADVICE WOULD BE APPRECIATED.

6 months and a day old with 6,003 miles

I had a long paragraph explaining my car accident and i hit something and it deleted !
2017 Outback Limited with eyesight and every letter abbreviated safety feature 2.4 A kid ran a red turn light and hit my drivers side front end going ?? and I was doing @35-40 going straight
Damaged basically whole front end and replaced, FULL REPLACEMENT OF FRAME RAIL ON DRIVERS SIDE AND REPAIR OF THE SAME ON PASSENGER SIDE those are the big ticket items. @$16,000 in repairs. It's been 21/2 months and I still don't have. Oh and no airbags deployed either. And brake was frozen/jammed - it would not depress.
 

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I hope your realize this is a car forum and not any of the subaru corp sites.

(I guess what you have there is what you typed to subaru and copied here...for the world to see :confused:...it is a bit hard to interpret).

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when you get it back, and when you drive it, the car should track and hold the road properly if the alignment is correct.

if not then your problem lies with the body shop, and if they correctly fixed it.

hopefully they would not bother to fix a car that should have been totaled as the uni-body etc. was damaged beyond repair.
 
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both my insurance and my collision shop have a lifetime warranty on the repairs from a wreck. Just monitor the car/tires closely after repair and don't hesitate to take it back to have problems addressed. Indeed, I expect you WILL need to return and have some items re-examined.

'diminished value' is something you also may want to discuss with your insurance company.
 

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Why are we shouting
 
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The proof is going to be in the wheel alignment. If a given alignment shop can put the wheels at the angles specified in the book, the tire life will be fine. If they can't, then the body shop needs to take it back until it's right.
 

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MY BIG CONCERN THAT SOA AND DEALER AND BODY SHOP DANCE AROUND IS WITH UNIBODY DAMAGE WILL MY TIRES WEAR UNEVEN?.
you're way too worried about this.

1. you should be asking BEFORE (since you like to amplify/shout) the repair, not after. making sure you choose a good shop and find out what kind of warranty/guarantees the shop or insurance offers or what your options are. if I had a $16,000 repair my hands would be entirely in the decision making process and I'd be finding out how to get this thing to the best shop in the region who knows Subaru's well and have these concerns/questions answered ahead of time (had i not been able to answer them myself).

that would have been waaaaaaaaay smarter than complaining about unknowns, archaic, ,anecdotal and inaccurate ambiguous possibilities after the fact.

2. alignment was done during the work. ask them or have the work printed and look over it.
you don't have to guess or assume the sky is falling.
i can't imagine all that work without an alignment. might as well assume your tire shop and oil change place screw up each time they do change those.

3. or just go get an alignment or free alignment check so you know or have a 3rd party quantitative data.

4. for actual advice you should post pictures of the damaged fenders/frame rails, then i could comment more specifically, a list of all the parts replaced is helpful as well, particularly if you're asking alignment questions.

5. sell it and get another one. talk to your insurance and ask if you have those devaluation clauses, options, etc for diminished value.

in general the repairs are usually far less benign than they appear to most people, even seasoned mechanics (not body shop people) freak out at accidents, just because they don't know and aren't familiar. my friend grew up in his dad's family owned shop and said "your car is totaled" when he saw my car totaled (he was with some friends who borrowed my car when they lost control at 75mph). pic's didn't look bad to me - i rebuilt it for like I don't know - $200 and drove it for years, another friend drove it a couple years after that, then he sold it to someone else who is presumably still driving it.

repaired cars are no big deal if they're done right - at $16,000 I realize it's a complete guess but it's probably done right.

i've rebuilt quite a few wrecked Subaru's, no big deal. i've never worked in a shop, been paid for car work, or had any formal training at all. i've never had alignment or any other long term issues. the three worst wrecks i've rebuilt are now at 270,000 miles, and 230,000+ on the other two many years after being rebuilt.

we can probably assume the shop that repaired your car had far better equipment, way more experience, and a huge pile of money to work with for the repair - they had it far easier than me and should provide a perfectly fine repair for 300,000 miles. i wouldn't sweat it.
 

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NEWBIE Love my 2017 OB 1st subie ever

Hi I leased a 2017 OB Limited with eyesight and the alphabet soup of safety Thanksgiving Eve. Fast forward 6 months and a day almost to the minute of happiness and then... she got hit front drivers side. Almost 3 months now in the car hospital. She needed full replacement of is it the frame or rocker rail on drivers side, repair of same on passenger, steering ??, and front suspension replaced plus a lot of other stuff. $15,700 in repairs/replacements. She had her first oil change 3 days before and that night I hit 6,000 miles. I miss her. I had a Volvo XC90 and I never felt as safe as I did in my OB since day 1. The night I bought my OB I was going to decide between 2 other cars. I kept going back and forth. A friend of mine said try the OB. You're here you may as well. I did reluctantly bc I didn't do any research on the OB. Forester, Mazda6, and Hondas I knew down to invoice. So I blindly leased my OB for the average going amount back then which I think is good especially not knowing a thing about the OB. Hopefully I'll have her back this week.
IS THERE AN ACCIDENT THREAD ON HERE? I have a concern with the repairs done.
 

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Unibody and suspension replaced r/t accident

My question that not even SOA has an answer for me other than take it to the dealer, is with my 2017 OB Limited with eyesight and alphabet soup of safety features, will the tires wear unevenly?
[/INDENT]INDENT]I was hit front side on drivers side but hard enough to cause passenger side to buckle at door hinges. The big ticket items of the @$15,700 in damages are full replacement of is it frame or rocker rail on drivers side, repair of same on passenger and basically a whole new front end - front suspension and something with steering. I know my wheel was turned at 90 degrees wrong way which caused a totally snapped tierod and something else. Several fluids were on the road and fog lights dangling. The pics my daughter took it doesn't look bad but $15,700 there was a lot unseen. It was 6 months and a day old but EMS and witnesses kept saying oh the poor Subaru. It's brand new! ... I whimpered no it's 6 months and a day but I take very good care of it.
Is there someone out there that can give me knowledgeable advice? I was hoping it would be totaled because I'm worried about unseen damage that will eventually go kaplooey and my tires wearing unevenly. I cannot afford to keep replacing them all bc of this kid hitting me. Thank you in advance...
 

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If the car was repaired properly tires should wear just fine.

Best you can do is take it to the dealer after you get it back and have them check the front end alignment.

Me personally, I would not worry about it. As soon as I got the car back I would be trading it for something else.
 

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for those keeping score 3 posts,...3 new threads,

that I merged into one thread.
... updated original title.
 
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Me personally, I would not worry about it. As soon as I got the car back I would be trading it for something else.
He said it was a lease.

That means just drive the thing until the end of the lease, then flip them the keys and a check for $300 and walk away from it. Then go lease another one somewhere else - or even at the same dealership. That's the advantage of the lease - you don't take a hit (you'll pardon the pun) on the reduced value when trading the car in that you otherwise would.
 

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The tires are either in alignment or they are not.
Go get the alignment numbers from the shop or take it to a different one.
No big deal - its standard practice to check and print out alignment numbers, it's done thousands of times a day.

Is there someone out there that can give me knowledgeable advice?
you got proper advice that you have so far completely ignored - what are you looking for?

I was hoping it would be totaled
is this really what you're looking for - a group proclamation that says this car is trashed and unfixable and a problem child for life so you can have some ammo for the insurance company? if so - you should just say that. we can help there too.

you can get it totaled or work out an amicable deal with the insurance company if it's the other persons fault. you do not have to take whatever the insurance gives you. it is 100% negotiable.
 

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He said it was a lease.

That means just drive the thing until the end of the lease, then flip them the keys and a check for $300 and walk away from it. Then go lease another one somewhere else - or even at the same dealership. That's the advantage of the lease - you don't take a hit (you'll pardon the pun) on the reduced value when trading the car in that you otherwise would.
or buy out the lease early. Like I said, it is not a car I would keep, even if it cost me a few bucks.
 

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Thanks for your input. I was upset because it was my first new car ever., so to me the sky was falling at that moment. I did go to the top body shop in the area that also works with the Subaru dealer I leased my car from. Unfortunately in Northern CA there aren't any Subaru Specialist shops. I did research before I chose the shop. The car looks ok but there are several gaps/bowing/misaligned parts that I noted and it now makes a clanking sound when going into any gear. I asked if they checked tranny (I did lose several fluids that spilled onto the road) and they said no they just had an engine guy pull it out and drop it back in. So they said they'll check it. Most likely they'll send it to the dealer like they did for a couple other repairs. Ill just keep sending it back until it's right. And I did discuss with Subaru the other stuff and they checked my car out and all was good. It's the angle I was hit at which airbags do not deploy when hit there because of the support in that area.
 

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Thank you!! At that moment in time I was freaking out. We just had to do the same with another leased car that our daughter was in. And I forgot. I was the one who called and asked what happens if in an accident with a leased car and I just plain forgot.
 

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Thank you. Like many said and I even knew but forgot is it is a lease so when lease is up I will just turn it in. And I did not know I can argue with insurance about it. Right now I am having a hard time getting reimbursed for the rental car. The shop had it for @3 months. I went through my insurance and they are dealing with reimbursement from the at fault drivers insurance. My insurance covered $900.00 and said if it was them paying they probably wouldn't pay the overage for rental because they have guidelines for how long something should take to fix. I am not knowledgeable on any of this stuff from the damage to the insurance. I used to be but I haven't had an accident since 1991 and it was totaled. If you have advice great. This is the first forum type thing I've done. Most replies are helpful even with the sarcasm in pretty much every reply.
 

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Thank you. Like many said and I even knew but forgot is it is a lease so when lease is up I will just turn it in. And I did not know I can argue with insurance about it. Right now I am having a hard time getting reimbursed for the rental car. The shop had it for @3 months. I went through my insurance and they are dealing with reimbursement from the at fault drivers insurance. My insurance covered $900.00 and said if it was them paying they probably wouldn't pay the overage for rental because they have guidelines for how long something should take to fix. I am not knowledgeable on any of this stuff from the damage to the insurance. I used to be but I haven't had an accident since 1991 and it was totaled. If you have advice great. This is the first forum type thing I've done. Most replies are helpful even with the sarcasm in pretty much every reply.
I was in similar boat. Crosstrek took 50days or so for repair on a 30day estimate, insurance was supposed to only cover 30days(industry typical). But I pushed up the chain to extended it, because they choose repair vs shops recommendation to total AND they were subrogating it anyway to the rear-enders insurance.

The 3 return visits to attempt correction repairs, rental cars were covered by shop.

Yes it was a train-wreck, notice I drive a Forester now. (Not the crosstrek's fault, just took the opportunity to size up)


What Ive seen happen, personally, and this is subjective.
A shop will have their costs, and timeframe.
An insurance will have their costs and timeframes they want.
And if the shop doesn't want to loose money on their time spent doing the estimate/evaluation. They'll accept the project, but then just run the time over for various whatever reasons, and cross out, omit line items that they cant afford to do at your insurances rate like replacing the twisted unibody floorpan leaving your cars alignment ******.

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He said it was a lease.

That means just drive the thing until the end of the lease, then flip them the keys and a check for $300 and walk away from it. Then go lease another one somewhere else - or even at the same dealership. That's the advantage of the lease - you don't take a hit (you'll pardon the pun) on the reduced value when trading the car in that you otherwise would.
Way too much logic and common sense for the internet.
 
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