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So after doing much research on here, I have placed an order for a set of Yokohama Geolandar AT GO15's in 225/65-R17 from Tirerack. These will be mounted on my stock 17" wheels by the partnered service provider (NTB) here in my area. I've read over and over about these tires being perfect for my car so I was pretty confident in my purchase.

Well, the next day I get an email from a Tirerack service rep saying he couldn't release my order until he discussed with me that my tires were not the right size for my vehicle. He then proceeded to recommend tires sizes for 16" wheels. I double checked my order to make sure I didn't do anything stupid. I then emailed him back informing him that my OB has the 17" wheels and they should fit fine while still acknowledging that they are slightly larger than the stock 225/60-R17's.

Yesterday I get a call from the same rep explaining that he still couldn't release my order until discussing with me that my tires were still the wrong size for the 17" wheel. Fortunately, he released my order after I informed him that I had read multiple reports of people fitting the 225/65's on other Gen4 Outbacks with the same wheel size. So my order is on the way, but it was enough to make me wonder if I am missing something? I would have expected a Tirerack rep to know what they are talking about. Is this just a CYA move on their part?

I'm really looking forward to these tires. My old Contis are worn to the wear bars and feeling super sketchy in the wet.
 

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The BFG Advantage Pro is the BFG competitor to the Geo’s. The Geos work well on light CUVs and wear decently. But they were terrible on my heavy Sequoia.

No doubt they will wear better than the soft squishy Continental tires.
I have about 15,000 on the BFGs so far Im really happy with them. Far better wearing especially hot weather trips loaded down which was what destroyed the Continentals.
 

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Is this just a CYA move on their part?
Probably that, a new guy learning, or something along those lines. Many automotive customers are unfamiliar with cars and so they have to be careful. They don't know if you know what you're doing, think you know but don't, or don't know and know you don't.

I order tire sizes far further from stock than you're talking about - wheels many inches beyond stock, and tires larger too. I have never had a glitch or question from tire rack.

I go to tirerack and buy tires. No need to enter my car. I've never gone through their recommended installer process so if that requires entering your car then you'll not have that option i guess.
 

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Yeah, I'm thinking it was a new/young guy. Once I explained to him how small of a difference the new tire size was and that I had done my research, it seemed like he quickly approved the shipment. This is my first time with Tirerack, so I didn't know if this was normal.
 

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They fit fine, very slight rubbing when I'm turning aggressively. I have a Gen 4 as well, they are mounted on my factory alloys.
 

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Well, I got them installed along with an alignment. Noticed rubbing right away leaving the NTB. I went home and trimmed the bottom lip of the factory mud flaps to get rid of the "mud shelf" and went to a nearby parking lot that has some steep sloped concrete to test for rubbing at full flex (doesn't take much to get to that point). After trimming those flaps, there's no rubbing at all with wheels turned to full lock, flexed almost to the point of lifting a wheel in either direction. There's not much extra room in that position at all but they fit. There's definitely no way I could have fit 235/65's.

So far I'm loving these tires. Their appearance is subtle. You wouldn't know they are AT's unless you were paying attention when they're not rolling, but I feel like they're just different enough to not look like boring minivan tires. I compare them to trail running shoes while BFG KO2s are like a set of backpacking boots. A nice tread for the dirt but they look just as much at home strolling down the street. The ride is much improved over my balding contis, but that's not saying much. The true test will come when it's cold an pouring rain, and when I take it off pavement. I'll post pictures when I get a chance.
 

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teamsloan, thank you for posting up your opinion of the Geolandar G015 tires. We sell quite a few of this size for Outbacks with solid results.

I have had a set of the Yokohama Geolandar G015 E rated version on my FJ Cruiser since before they came out. I liked them so much I put them on my Dodge 3500 4x4. They run quiet, are very smooth and give good traction.
 

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Just thought I'd post a quick update on here after having the tires in the dirt a bit and more miles on the road in various conditions. I'm still really happy with their on road performance, including cold rain. They even do pretty well in central TX's worst road conditions...that first bit of moisture after a long dry spell where the water hasn't had a chance to wash away all the built up oil and grime. Super slick. Now, off-road they do REALLY well on dirt/gravel roads. I had a chance to take the car to a local quarry and did my best to break it loose. No luck. Tires were like glue and I was starting to get uncomfortable with how fast I was able to go on corners. I couldn't spin the tires, no oversteer or understeer. Completely boring and uneventful except for the speed. I must have been having too much fun though because I got busted and kicked out of the quarry. :p

Another outing I was able to get in to some descent clay mud and the tread seemed to pack up a bit to the point that I got a bit nervous about getting stuck with no self extraction options while trespassing. As soon as I got out of the mud it seemed like the tread cleared very quickly. I've got to find better (legal) places to explore!
 

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