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While driving at 68 mph or faster, I have a very loud vibrating sound coming from the area of the driver's side A column. It is coming from outside the car but can be heard inside, about halfway up the column.

The previous owner of my 2000 OBW had the windshield replaced, which is what I assume is causing the noise. It seems to be a harmonic vibration (I know all sound is a vibration of air), that starts when air is passing over something outside of the car. It is worse on windy days. I liken it to the sound of a kazoo played through a 1,000 watt amp.

Has anyone else had this problem? Does anyone think it could be something else besides the windshield replacement - perhaps some trim coming loose? Any suggestions on how to stop it? Some sort of sealant that will not screw up the existing seal or look like crap?
 

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LOL I spot this one every year or so - The rubber gasket running around the edge of the glass needs enough gasket sealer put behind it or it will vibrate against the car frame ie flap in the wind. If you had the window done recently run back to the shop and have them shoot more goop in behind the rubber seal.

If you need to use the car and don't have time take some painters tape and run it over the rubber gasket with it tapped to the car. This will get rid of the crazy loud
Kazoo effect till you can get back to the window shop for some added sealer. Not a big deal but loud as all get out!!! First time I experienced it I pulled over on the freeway and went looking for something dragging under the car.
 

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Unfortunately I inherited the car from a relative about 6 hrs away in WV. So, not sure who did the windshield work. Probably drunken uncle Joe. He did a lot of work to the car that I have been redoing over the last year.

Do you folks think it is something I should attempt myself with clear bathtub sealant or the like? Or should I go to a local windshield repair place? If so, I do have comprehensive insurance. I could just drop a brick on the windshield and have Allstate fix it. lol But that would be insurance fraud which is wrong and illegal and I would never do that to a huge company like Allstate (Looks over his shoulder).
 

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Do not use home brand sealers!!! They contain acidic properties and will eat your car and cause major rust. - Go to the auto parts store and buy a tube of black gasket sealer. Before you start getting crazy squirting it in behind the rubber window gasket - put painters tape over it and find the spot where its making all the racket. Then simply run your finger under the rubber gasket gently and shoot some gasket sealer in behind the rubber gasket. Super simple and easy fix.
 

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A local windshield shop might just shoot some sealer in there for you for no charge or maybe $10. Worth calling a shop close by and just tell them the rubber gasket around the window needs more gasket sealer behind it given its vibrating loudly etc. The window shop will know exactly what your speaking of.
 

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A local windshield shop might just shoot some sealer in there for you for no charge or maybe $10. Worth calling a shop close by and just tell them the rubber gasket around the window needs more gasket sealer behind it given its vibrating loudly etc. The window shop will know exactly what your speaking of.
I'll go with that option. I can see myself making a huge mess if I DIY it. I'd probably be driving around with paper towels glued to the windshield obscuring my view where I tried to wipe it off of the smear that the windshield wipers made when I put too much on and I hit a tree and have to spend the rest of my life in a wheelchair and my daughters grow up to be heroin addicted prostitutes because I was not here to guide them... uh er hem... yeh, I'll let a windshield professional handle it.
 

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I'd probably be driving around with paper towels glued to the windshield obscuring my view where I tried to wipe it off of the smear that the windshield wipers made when I put too much on and I hit a tree and have to spend the rest of my life in a wheelchair and my daughters grow up to be heroin addicted prostitutes because I was not here to guide them... uh er hem...
I like your imagination. Have you considered screenwriting?
 

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While driving at 68 mph or faster, I have a very loud vibrating sound coming from the area of the driver's side A column. It is coming from outside the car but can be heard inside, about halfway up the column.

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I've had the exact same experience in my car, but it only triggers in a hearty cross wind. Otherwise, it never makes a sound. Like Subiesailor, I too pulled over the first time it happened. Thought I had some crazy leak whistling from some piping or hose. Mine is outside on the driver's side but at the base of the A pillar. Glad to know I wasn't the only one whose heard this.
 

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Solved?

OK, against my better judgement I stopped at Autozone and picked up some of this stuff.
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The details are here sealants : Permatex® Flowable Silicone Windshield & Glass Sealer

At first I pried the windshield trim up a bit using one of my plastic installer's tools and squirted the goop in as I went along the pried up seal. Waited a couple of hours and still had the sound around 75 mph, but not as loud. Perhaps I did not wait long enough before testing. If you know me, you know doing it the right way the first time is my last option. ;)

So I made a very thin bead against the trim on the windshield. The stuff is clear and practically unnoticeable. Waited until today and sped up the road and no sonic kazoo.

I used the rest of the tube between the back hatch glass and the center red "Subaru" plastic panel because when I opened the lift gate after a heavy rain about a quart of water ran out from the taillight access panel. It might be fixed, but I'm not certain. About half the tube disappeared into a large gap about an inch and half wide and may not have made an effective seal. I checked and it did not run down onto the taillights inside.
http://www.permatex.com/products/product-categories/adhesives-sealants/sealants/permatex--flowable-silicone-windshield---glass-sealer-detail
 

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3M Window Weld. You can pick it up at just about any parts store. Its what is used to attach and seal the windshield. A tube that fits in a caulk gun runs about $25.

Be sure to write up a scenario of your experience....
 

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The stuff I mentioned in my last post worked to eliminate the kazoo sound I reported in my first post. We'll see how long it lasts for that problem.

I also used it to seal 98% of the gap between the bottom of the back glass frame and the top of the center "Subaru" logo plastic piece. If it doesn't keep the water out of the hatch during the next big rain, I'll clean it out and use the 3M product mentioned above.
 

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It really isnt about gluing down the gasket it is more about filling the gap which seats the gasket better. You dont want to glue it to the car.
 

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Not solved!

I must have misunderstood where the noise was produced. I assumed it was where the inside (windshield side) of the windshield gasket lay down on the windshield. See #1 in attached pic. So I added a bead of that filler crap I mentioned earlier in this post to keep air from slipping up under that trim. The silicone would be easy enough to remove if I need a new windshield. That did not help. Today the kazoo is back. :(

Should I be filling the huge gap (#2 in pic) under the outside edge of the rubber windshield gasket and the frame of the car using the 3M black stuff mentioned above? As you can see there is enough room between the edge of the windshield and the metal of the car to run a coax cable.

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Should I be filling the huge gap (#2 in pic) under the outside edge of the rubber windshield gasket and the frame of the car using the 3M black stuff mentioned above? As you can see there is enough room between the edge of the windshield and the metal of the car to run a coax cable.

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^ Yes - though before you do that - put painters tape on it and see if you stop the kazoo do the spot you suspect first if the kazoo keeps going - put tape over more of the gasket till it stops that is your spot that needs the back fill ie gap between the glass and the under side of the gasket filled with spooge
 

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Ah ha, will tape and see what happens. Actually, listen to what happens. Or doesn't happen. You know what I mean!
 

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Did you get the car from an older relative? I think the car is just trying to tell you to slow down!
 

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Did you get the car from an older relative? I think the car is just trying to tell you to slow down!
Ha ha. I just finished the timing belt, water pump, and valve cover gaskets. Along with the new tires, suspension work and brakes on all four corners this, is the first time I've actually felt comfortable going that fast. lol

I inherited the car from my sister-in-law when she died. She didn't "take a liken' to me" as they say in West Virgina, where she and the car were from. Every time I have a problem with it - and I've spent the last 9 months fixing all the ones I inherited - I feel like it is her ghost haunting the car. As each problem is fixed I feel like I am doing a small exorcism. She IS telling me to slow down, but only when an 18 wheeler is riding up my back bumper. RIP Sarah.
 

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I very occasionally get a similar sound. Usually when there is a strong cross wind, when I'm traveling at highway speed. It's the passenger wiper assembly vibrating on the windshield. The wind get under it a little and lifts it up and down making a rather loud buzzing/vibrating sound. I learned to ignore it after I figured out the cause......
 

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It's the passenger wiper assembly vibrating on the windshield. The wind get under it a little and lifts it up and down making a rather loud buzzing/vibrating sound. I learned to ignore it after I figured out the cause.
It seems like that noise would come from near the bottom of the windshield and this noise is coming from midway up the A pillar and it is far too loud to ignore. Think of someone playing a kazoo through a megaphone right next to your ear.

I called a local windshield place and they said they'd send someone out within 48 hours. They're kind of busy still from hurricane Sandy.
 
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