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Fun times. I've really grown to like the Subaru CVT although there are still plenty of those who don't.
 

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Fun times. I've really grown to like the Subaru CVT although there are still plenty of those who don't.
The CVT’s simulated shift points aren’t that bad really. On the XT they almost make you think you’ve got at 8-speed. Compared to the 9 speed in my wife’s Acura (notorious for clunky shifts) this thing is butter. And compared to my brother-in-law’s Nissan, this CVT is miles beyond. His truly is the definition of a rubber-band effect.


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The CVT’s simulated shift points aren’t that bad really. On the XT they almost make you think you’ve got at 8-speed.
Maybe. But I've never found myself wishing I had an 8-speed.
I wish it could make me think I have a CVT instead of trying to be something it isn't.
 

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Maybe. But I've never found myself wishing I had an 8-speed.
I wish it could make me think I have a CVT instead of trying to be something it isn't.
It's my first CVT so I don't have any personal data points to compare against; I had a '14 OB Premium with the 6MT. If it saves my clutch leg from going numb in Austin traffic (when we return to "standard" Austin traffic) I'll be happy.
 

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It's my first CVT so I don't have any personal data points to compare against; I had a '14 OB Premium with the 6MT. If it saves my clutch leg from going numb in Austin traffic (when we return to "standard" Austin traffic) I'll be happy.
And despite my complaints about the shift points I actually like the CVT. I just wish I had the option to let it be a CVT if I choose. It might be that I wouldn't always like it without the fake shift points as well. The ability to turn them on and off would be great.
 

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I see what you mean. I read somewhere that a “real” CVT was off-putting to Americans when focus-tested. Apparently the transmission keeping itself in the optimum powerband freaked out drivers used to normal automatics. Hence the simulated shift points.


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I see what you mean. I read somewhere that a “real” CVT was off-putting to Americans when focus-tested. Apparently the transmission keeping itself in the optimum powerband freaked out drivers used to normal automatics. Hence the simulated shift points.


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Yeah, the only thing we hate more than things staying the same is things changing. 😄
 

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I will never buy another CVT again. Either traditional transmission or electric drive for me going forward.
 

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I read somewhere that if you put the car in launch mode it gets rid of the fake shift points. How to put it in launch mode? The reviewer (I apologize, I haven't been able to find it again), held the brake and boosted RPMs to 3500 or 4000rpm and released the brakes. The car realized it was in launch mode automatically and did away with the fake shift points.
Doing that is generally really tough on all parts of the car, so I'm not recommending that anyone do it, and I know i won't be doing it.
 

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I read somewhere that if you put the car in launch mode it gets rid of the fake shift points. How to put it in launch mode? The reviewer (I apologize, I haven't been able to find it again), held the brake and boosted RPMs to 3500 or 4000rpm and released the brakes. The car realized it was in launch mode automatically and did away with the fake shift points.
Doing that is generally really tough on all parts of the car, so I'm not recommending that anyone do it, and I know i won't be doing it.
we have launch mode on Outbacks? I thought that was a WRX thing only.
 

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only down side is CVT cannot handle high power applications..... there is a reason Raptor does not recommend their higher power packages for their blower on the h6 with CVT as it (the CVT) would grenade it's self
 

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only down side is CVT cannot handle high power applications..... there is a reason Raptor does not recommend their higher power packages for their blower on the h6 with CVT as it (the CVT) would grenade it's self
Most stock automatics also are not built for high horsepower applications either. Automatics probably do have an advantage in that there is a lot of experience out there in rebuilding and modifying them to be able to take stupid amounts of power. I don't know if there is anything inherent about a CVT that would make them unable to be modified to be able to take more power. If a demand develops for it then someone will likely figure it out. All it takes is money. 😁
 

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I don't know if there is anything inherent about a CVT that would make them unable to be modified to be able to take more power. If a demand develops for it then someone will likely figure it out.
It's already been figured out for large agricultural tractors and various kinds of construction equipment. Obviously, it's built from the ground up and properly sized to the task at hand.
 
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