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greetings folks, My 87 Subaru GL wagon was totaled a few weeks back. I loved that car and naturally thought I'd upgrade to an Outback. the price point I'm looking at seems to put me in a 1999 - 2000 car with 70 - 90K miles. Any particular things I should look for? From what I've read so far the big concerns are the Head Gaskets and the alignment.
 

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Welcome to the board!

Yes, ask to see service records on any OB you might buy, they could come in handy. Make sure you know how old the timing belts are.

You'll find that the OB is very similar to the Legacy wagon, except it sits taller. It also has a bit more headroom, since the roofline is raised. Otherwise it should be pretty much the same as what you are used to. Have fun!
 

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Thanks for the response. The timing belt should be replaced at around 70K right? If this hasn't been done should it?
 

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timing belt interference

I don't need to much budget interference. Is it true that timing belt failure will not damage the engine as in, say Hondas?
 

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no, what the "interference" part means is that if the belt breaks, the valves and piston crowns will try to occupy the same space and will "interfere" (how british...) with each other, to the chagrin of both. results vary from bent valves to potentially destruction of entire block if a valve head snaps off.

really, the belt replacement is something that any talented amateur with cheap hand tools can do. it's not a big deal, and new belt is not expensive. even changing the seals behind belt cogs can be done with tool fashioned from soft iron nail. you just need to drive conservatively until you do it. belt that hasn't been replaced on schedule does tell you something abt the maintenance of the rest of the car, and if it does break, you're looking at hundreds to thousands in internal engine dmg.

head gaskets seems to be the real issue. supposedly Sub intro'd a New Improved head gasket design at some point. not sure when or if it fixed problem. the Lizard seems to be the expert on this. i'd appreciate any info on what years to look for and avoid too, as i may be back in mkt for another (the madness spreads....) ?????
 

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the Lizard seems to be the expert on this.
I defer to Mericet, who has plunged deeper into these waters than I have (although I did help in part of the job).

Sometimes I wish that I could have installed the 1.9L engine from my rusted Escort, instead of the mthrfcking gasket bomb 2.5L , if only I could make it bolt up.

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Bitter? Me? Not after this next cocktail.

That's not true, I'll still be angry.
 

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so maybe this is the time to install the TDI engine....??? or a 911 motor (no water leakage around THAT head gasket!)

or maybe Saturday night was not a good time to bring it up.....:eek:

seriously, what parts on your motor are wasted? i assume lubricated parts like rings n bearings, maybe cyl walls, crank journals, valvetrain...?? or more to the point, what is the minimum amount you would have to do to get motor running again?

you like the car. you don't have $2500 for a crate motor and likely won't in near future. you're stuck in a Puick. at risk of sounding like broken record, don't discard the ebay motor solution. much of the cost of a motor via ebay is the shipping, so if you can find one you can go get yourself, you might be able to get a decent motor for as little as $2-300. wish i could help ya on this more.
 

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thanks again, Wow, I guess I better beware of the HG issue. Can imminent failure be detected by a compression test or something?
 

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i believe the problem is not compression leakage but coolant getting into the oil galleries.

mitnardo, i'm going to post another thread on this specific issue. i'm a fairly competent mechanic but don't really know much on this one, and need to learn as i don't want to listen to the 85 yr old inlaws if it dies while they're in it.....
 

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I posted an explanation on the thread you started.

I got coolant in the oil on my Escort, but not the OB. In that case, the warning sign was green slime on the dipstick.
 
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