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Ok, just replaced the tires on our 2015 that is moving to CO with my daughter with the Nokian WRG3. Looking to replace the stock tires on our other Outback (3.6 Ltd) and it looks like the Michelin Premier line gets great reviews. Both the LTX and A/S are offered in this size, and both are very highly rated from what I can gather, so any input on which you chose and why would be appreciated.
 

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I have the AS and selected it over the LTX after reading all the reviews I found.

I chose it because 95% of my driving is on highways, roads and streets and other 5% is in rain or snow. It's a great tire and I would definitely buy another set.

If I had more than 50% of driving to be in bad weather, snow, mud or off road such as hiking trails, logging it fire roads, I'd pick the LTX.

I also talked with my Discount Tire local store who said the same thing. I would pick the AS and only buy the LTX if I needed a slighty more aggressive tire. They are very close.
 

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Thanks, this is helpful. The large majority of our driving will just be around town too, with a few trips a year to the snow. Looks like both do ok in the snow though.
 

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got the A/S city driving about 1 trip every 3 weeks 130 miles 95% interstate. Fl nice rain. Ride nice and quite. Like the "better rain traction as wearing" idea. Had mine about 3 months.
 

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I just put on the Michelin Premier LTX. It has transformed the ride of my Outback. The Duelers were serviceable but not so great in rain and pitiful in any amount of snow. I to was debating between the LTX and the AS. The last generation Outback I had came with Grand Touring All Season tires. The Continentals we all know. This generation they moved to using light truck/crossover/suv tires. I had Pirelli Cituranto grand touring on my '14 Outback and had planned on getting them for my '17 Outback. But I know this generation is larger and I imagine a little heavier than the last. I figure since Subaru decided to move to the crossover/suv tire they had a reason. The description of the LTX and what its designed for seemed to fit the Outback more than the AS. So ultimately thats what persuaded me to choose the LTX.
 

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So we only got 26,000 out of the OEM Bridgestone Dueller H/P's, which were down to 2/32's when we replaced them. Did quite a bit of research and seemed to think the Michelin Premier LTX was the best option and Discount Tire had them on sale, Asst Manager highly recommended them, came with a 60k warranty. Unfortunately, they were not what we had hoped for. After a visit today to Discount for the 5K rotation, they stated we are already at 4/32's and we are only at 39.7K which is basically 13.7k miles of use out of the Michelin's. I have Discount rotate every 5k and I check the air pressure the 1st of each month. My daily work commute is 3.5 miles one way and I am doing 99% of the driving and I admit, I baby the heck out of the Outback so to be this much tire wear at only 13.7k miles is extremely disappointing, to say the least. Discount states they can only offer a pro-rate of $150.00 per tire to assist with the purchase of new tires but we need to act now as the pro-rate will decrease quickly. The Discount sales rep was NOT recommending I go back to the Premier or the A/S and is stating I am not alone on such quick tire wear. Just hung up with Michelin and they are looking into this for us now. Will be getting back to us tomorrow stating they are going to assist in making this right. After my wife did some quick web research, it appears that we are definitely not alone in finding that Michelin is just not what they use to be and this tire is apparently not lasting at all across the country. I will update once we settle up with Michelin.
 

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I swear by the Michelin Defender. I got over 80K miles on one of our Outbacks. Have a set on the Foz, and another set on the Beaner. The discontinued Defender XT was prolly one of the best all season tires I've ever used in the snow.

Unfortunately they don't come sized for Subaru 18". They are available in 17"
 

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I had LTX pre-installed on a new car (not Subaru) and I got barely 25.000, worn out at 2/32 both sides, mostly on dry roads in the city and highway - I guess LTX are made for wet weather.... I have replaced them with A/S now and hoping for better results....
 

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Update: while the performance of the LTX has been great, the tread life seems very poor. We are at about 20,000 miles and they need to be replaced. Hopefully DT will help me out on this.
 

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DT has a great reputation for warranty assistance, provided you did the balance and rotation as required.

They were a tremendous help when my Michelins died at around 40k. They gave me a pro rata warranty credit to be applied towards any brand, not just another set.

I rolled that money into a set of Pirelli P7 Cinturado and I couldn't be happier. If you're looking at a replacement give good consideration to the Pirellis. Great reviews and they will last longer than Michelin. My DT said they love the Michelins but they don't last.
 

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Update: while the performance of the LTX has been great, the tread life seems very poor. We are at about 20,000 miles and they need to be replaced. Hopefully DT will help me out on this.
Chris,

I'm apologize you have an issue with your tires. You local Discount Tire store will be able to help with any warranty issues you have with your Michelin tires. If we can be of assistance please let us know.
 

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I had 2 sets of A/S with poor tread wear, and am trying the latest model Defender now. Seems to be better so far, but if not, I'll swear off Michelin brands, after having bought them for many years. Too bad to see a brand rep go down like that.
 

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Chris,

I'm apologize you have an issue with your tires. You local Discount Tire store will be able to help with any warranty issues you have with your Michelin tires. If we can be of assistance please let us know.
Thanks, my local DT was very helpful. I am likely going to get the Continental LX25 at this time. I really like the Pirelli Scorpion Verde AS Plus II that I put on our Acura last year, but they do not make it in the size for the 18” Subaru wheels.
 

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Both of the Premiers are great in any weather, but tread life is not good, at least not on an AWD vehicle. I would recommend the A/S, I got 40k miles out of them. The LTX is a little noisy, thanks to a little more aggressive tread I think, but I only got 28k out of them. Michelin prorated the replacements in both cases.
 

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DT has a great reputation for warranty assistance, provided you did the balance and rotation as required.

They were a tremendous help when my Michelins died at around 40k. They gave me a pro rata warranty credit to be applied towards any brand, not just another set.

I rolled that money into a set of Pirelli P7 Cinturado and I couldn't be happier. If you're looking at a replacement give good consideration to the Pirellis. Great reviews and they will last longer than Michelin. My DT said they love the Michelins but they don't last.
Thanks for this input —- I just ordered the P7 AS plus II Cinturato for our Outback. They will be replacing the LTX’s that were done at 17K miles.
 
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