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Hi all, I am new to the subaru. I don't own a Outback yet but...... My CRV is all but sold and I am going to trade in my truck. I want a 3.6 because the 2.4 in the crv is anemic. Is there anything I should look out for or avoid when purchasing. I will be using the Costco purchasing program. Hopefully I will be getting a good deal.


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I just did the same

I recently sold my pick up truck to purchase a 3.6r outback and couldn't be happier. If I was going to be driving longer distances (its only 18miles to work) I may have thought about a 2.5i. I like the 3.6r and while I am only on my second tank of gas, I am averaging 21.5 & 22.5 for both of those tanks which is a lot better than my truck was giving me.

I found the 3.6r much peppier in merging and lane changing than the 2.5i. I also believe that I would be pushing the 2.5i harder which would result in the lower spectrum of their gas mileage range. I see a few people getting 24-25mpg with the 2.5i. If i can stay at 22ish it makes the 3.6r purchase much more appealing for me.

Since quotes are free make sure you ask a few dealers first before you just go with the costco program. I drove over 60 miles away to get the vehicle i wanted for the price I was happy with.

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I am averaging 21.5 & 22.5 for both of those tanks which is a lot better than my truck was giving me.

I found the 3.6r much peppier in merging and lane changing than the 2.5i. I also believe that I would be pushing the 2.5i harder which would result in the lower spectrum of their gas mileage range. I see a few people getting 24-25mpg with the 2.5i. If i can stay at 22ish it makes the 3.6r purchase much more appealing for me.

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I average over 24 mpg over 50K+ miles in my 3.6R.. Higher in the summer , lower in the winter....FWIW!
 

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Talk to and work multiple dealers against one another for best price. I was able to get a price substantially lower than the Costco price on my '12 OB Premium that way. It also sometimes is advantageous to purchase at the end of the month when salesmen and dealerships have quotas they have to meet. Good luck!

FWIW It sounds like you have your mind made up on the 3.6. I have the 2.5 and have been very satisfied with it. I tow a Teardrop camping trailer on occasion and the 2.5 with the CVT has performed admirably. I have never gotten below 24-25 around town and never below 28 (and up to 31) on the hwy, once the engine was fully broken in.
 

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There are many factors that likely impact the 2.5i mileage you see. In my case, I've gotten as good as 30.7 and as bad as 25 on the highway. 30.7 was just me and a bag for a week, driving 75 when I could and stuck in LIE traffic for the first hour. 25 was 3 adults with luggage for a week and a bike on the roof with times of heavy traffic.

As far as the power, I came from a GM sedan with the 3.8L, the 2.5 is surprisingly capable. Sure, it doesn't have the same zip my old car did but it's no 3-cylinder Geo Metro either...
 

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I have been reading threads here and have learned quite a bit. The radio with nav is a no go. Too many reported non resolved issues. Good to know this prior to purchase as it can be used as leverage. I am still in the air of 2.5 vs 3.6. My CRV is just so anemic with a 2.4, I don't see how subarus engine could be much different. When it comes to finding a deal, I have to agree with what you guys said about shopping around. The same dealership gave me different numbers for the CostCo program......Go Fish!
 

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I have been reading threads here and have learned quite a bit. The radio with nav is a no go. Too many reported non resolved issues. Good to know this prior to purchase as it can be used as leverage. I am still in the air of 2.5 vs 3.6. My CRV is just so anemic with a 2.4, I don't see how subarus engine could be much different. When it comes to finding a deal, I have to agree with what you guys said about shopping around. The same dealership gave me different numbers for the CostCo program......Go Fish!
Best test to drive one and see if the OB 2.5 -v- the CRV 2.4 makes a difference (not just the engine; but the whole drive train). I thought it did, and settled on the 2.5 OB.
 

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I was using fuelly as a reference. If you look at Subaru Outbacks 70 out of 108 2013 2.5i have a mileage average of 18-25 mpg. 46 vehicles are averaging less then 23 mpg. If I knew I was driving a long distance everyday I would have gone with the 2.5i but 36 miles round trip daily was not enough for me to justify the loss of power or get the most from a 2.5i.

If i keep this average up I am doing as well or better than 28 2.5i owners on fuelly while enjoying the 3.6r's power and smoothness.

Your results may be different and I hope for your sake it is. They are both good engines I just think the 3.6r is better in some cases, of which mine was one of them.
 

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I live in NorCal and am getting an avg. of 26mpg 50/50 with the 2.5i and am very happy.
 

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My daily work mileage is 26 total. I mainly do mountain terrain when I am vacationing. Not sure what I will be towing yet. Maybe a Casita or a PopUp.
 

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Test drive both. The 2.5 comes with a manual and CVT, the 3.6 comes with a 5EAT, if transmissions matter to you.

There have been reports of some 3.6 having oil consumption issues, but there seems to be no rhyme or reason at this point. Basically, as with any car you should check your dipstick periodically.

The 2.5 shines on the highway for fuel economy, considering it is paired with a heavy all-time AWD vehicle. Even with my old EJ series engine and ancient 4EAT transmission I get 27-32 MPG on the interstate, depending on if I am driving for time or economy. Keeping it at 60-65 in the right lane and I'll get 30 MPG easily on trips from IL to TN.
 

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I'm new to Subaru's as well. Coming from my Lovely Honda Accord 2007 4cyl, I would say for the size of the car 2.5 OB has good amount of punch (better than my Accord in acceleration and Torque). But the handling has a lot to be desired, I believe Honda has the best Steering system period, just back froma 150 Mile road trip and OB puts a lot of pressure for you to concentrate on the road. But I am still on 700 mile mark, I hope I learn to drive it. For me 2.5 is plenty sufficient.
 

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AWDFTW and Mamaia, that is a good info. I will definitely try out the 2.5. My only remaining concern would be towing capacity. Hondas do have good steering. My Toyota pre runner does great in all driving aspects.
 

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3.6 is way to go, yeah I have a CRV myself and the power between the two is a day and night comparison. Socal147 you said you are adventurer when you are in vacation, there you go.. get the 3.6. you will lovw it....and what part of Socal you from.
 

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I'm new to Subaru's as well. Coming from my Lovely Honda Accord 2007 4cyl, I would say for the size of the car 2.5 OB has good amount of punch (better than my Accord in acceleration and Torque). But the handling has a lot to be desired, I believe Honda has the best Steering system period, just back froma 150 Mile road trip and OB puts a lot of pressure for you to concentrate on the road. But I am still on 700 mile mark, I hope I learn to drive it. For me 2.5 is plenty sufficient.
I have a 10 OB and just purchased a 13 Accord. The new 2.4 in the Accord is much better than previous Honda 4 bangers.
 

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I have a 10 OB and just purchased a 13 Accord. The new 2.4 in the Accord is much better than previous Honda 4 bangers.
I'vent driven the latest Gen Accord. I read it got a DI engine with CVT, but what miss out my 07 Accord is the peppy handling. Driving OB in a curved two lane highway is a royal pain on the butt.
 
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