Subaru Outback Forums banner

1 - 13 of 13 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
124 Posts
Discussion Starter #1
I own a '98 Legacy that has been great, but getting old in tooth with rust (darn Maine roads and salt over the years). Am I looking at replacing it with a 2010-2013 Outback this spring. Any differences between model years and any issues with them? Is the head gasket issue gone with the Gen 4? Any information appreciated.
 

·
Registered
2013 Outback Premium - 6spd manual
Joined
·
155 Posts
Steering shake issues were resolved in 2013, when they made changes to the suspension. But 2013, was 1st year of FB engine, had oil-consumption issues.

If you can find a 13 or 14 which has had the short-block replaced, I'd go with that!
 

·
On the Super Mod Squad
02 Pair: 3.0 VDC Wag & 2.5 Limited Sedan
Joined
·
26,215 Posts
things I would look for:

a 2011 or 12 2.5 outback with a new / fixed CVT in it. (2010 has quirks being the first year).

or a rare EJ253 2011-12 manual trans. (if you want to turn your own gears).

____

or 2010-14 3.6. (such came with the last of the great 5EAT in them).

_________

if a forester or impreza: like a 2009-2010 with the last of the EJ253 and 4EAT.
...such may have head gasket issues as they were made with single layer head gaskets. but those are fixable just like any other 2000-09 outback/ legacy.

_____

things to avoid, if CVT and or engine not already fixed. (...such on 100,000 mile extended warranties).

: 2010-15 CVT cars without new / fixed transmissions.

2013-15 FB25B outbacks/legacys with the FB25B. 2011-2015 foresters with the FB25B,

and 2012-2015 impreza/crosstrek with the FB20.

____
and the extended warranty stops at 100,000 miles. and you are out to keep this car for 20 years....and rounding up a replacement FB25B or CVT for such a pre 2016 could cost thousands in the end.


___

come august / September of this year, 2016s should be back at the dealers off lease.

currently they are glutted with 2015s, and the sales staff are not mentioning engine / transmission problems and the extended warranty limit on them at all.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
124 Posts
Discussion Starter #5
Sounds like Gen 4 has some bugs. I guess I will have to be careful and avoid problem areas mentioned. When shopping, I may not rule out the Gen 3 if head gaskets are done, low mileage and no rust. Going to be a tough decision.
 

·
Registered
2011 Outback Limited. White, Sunroof, 2.5, CVT. Bought 2/15/11. Love it! Broke 109K, 2/20.
Joined
·
449 Posts
Not looking for a jinx, but my '11 has been a sweetheart. We have about 91K on the clock right now and would have more except for having two other vehicles to choose from for transportation. I have no qualms about recommending one and I have the 2.5 and the CVT. Good fuel economy and responsive enough for my needs. Loads of room for adults, front and rear. Probably the best $30K I spent on any vehicle (bought new). My plans are to keep the car until I gasp my last breath, and I hope that doesn't happen for a good number of years!! And if something happened that I needed to replace it, another Outback would be in my sights, possibly the current generation.
 

·
On the Super Mod Squad
02 Pair: 3.0 VDC Wag & 2.5 Limited Sedan
Joined
·
26,215 Posts
Sounds like Gen 4 has some bugs. I guess I will have to be careful and avoid problem areas mentioned. When shopping, I may not rule out the Gen 3 if head gaskets are done, low mileage and no rust. Going to be a tough decision.
snapping up a rust free thing from 2000-2009 is not a bad thing, look for one listed as needing head gasket work.

and in a 2000-2009 H4 get it done in a quality way,


or in a 2001-2009 H6, drop in a JDM engine. (that's cheaper then head gaskets on a H4,...but those like super gas...so as a daily driver that is kind of a drag).
 

·
Registered
2017 Outback Limited w/all the goodies. 2013 Outback Limited (sold)
Joined
·
177 Posts
things I would look for:

a 2011 or 12 2.5 outback with a new / fixed CVT in it. (2010 has quirks being the first year).

or a rare EJ253 2011-12 manual trans. (if you want to turn your own gears).

____

or 2010-14 3.6. (such came with the last of the great 5EAT in them).

_________

if a forester or impreza: like a 2009-2010 with the last of the EJ253 and 4EAT.
...such may have head gasket issues as they were made with single layer head gaskets. but those are fixable just like any other 2000-09 outback/ legacy.

_____

things to avoid, if CVT and or engine not already fixed. (...such on 100,000 mile extended warranties).

: 2010-15 CVT cars without new / fixed transmissions.

2013-15 FB25B outbacks/legacys with the FB25B. 2011-2015 foresters with the FB25B,

and 2012-2015 impreza/crosstrek with the FB20.

____
and the extended warranty stops at 100,000 miles. and you are out to keep this car for 20 years....and rounding up a replacement FB25B or CVT for such a pre 2016 could cost thousands in the end.


___

come august / September of this year, 2016s should be back at the dealers off lease.

currently they are glutted with 2015s, and the sales staff are not mentioning engine / transmission problems and the extended warranty limit on them at all.
"2013-15 FB25B outbacks/legacys with the FB25B."

What's wrong with this motor?


EDIT***

Possible oil consumption.

My 13 doesn't have this problem.
Sent from my SM-G930R4 using Tapatalk
 

·
On the Super Mod Squad
02 Pair: 3.0 VDC Wag & 2.5 Limited Sedan
Joined
·
26,215 Posts
"2013-15 FB25B outbacks/legacys with the FB25B."

What's wrong with this motor?

Sent from my SM-G930R4 using Tapatalk
100,000 mile extended warranty. ...and what are you going to do with it if at 120,000 miles and you have no 3rd party warranty on it and it starts to consume oil and lay blue smoke down the road.

...pay for it to have new cylinder liners,....take it to the dump and leave it.?


_____

and if in september 2018, you had a choice of a 45,000 mile unfixed 2015 FB25B unfixed CVT,
or a 30,000 mile 2016 FB25B CVT.

for the same price, which one would you pick,...if your goal was to keep the car for 10 plus years and 200,000 miles.
 

·
Registered
2013 3.6R Limited
Joined
·
902 Posts
Get a 3.6R / 5EAT. Best engine / transmission combination with the least risk for long-term ownership. That is what my extensive research done throughout 2015 pointed to. I found a well-cared-for 2013 3.6R in early November 2015 and it has served us well with nothing required from me except routine maintenance.
 

·
Registered
Volvo V70, Benz E320
Joined
·
9 Posts
How bad are the 2010's with manual transmission? There's a Subaru dealership near me with two of them right now, about 100k mi each, around $9k-$10k. Seems like a good deal if they have records of head gasket and timing belt change. Or should I hold out for a 2011-2012 manual?
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
93 Posts
Having leased a 2014 2.5 Limited, I love my 2014 3.6R SAP, I think it's the best...

I believe you can find a low mileage 2014 3.6R SAP just use CarGurus.com
 

·
On the Super Mod Squad
02 Pair: 3.0 VDC Wag & 2.5 Limited Sedan
Joined
·
26,215 Posts
How bad are the 2010's with manual transmission? There's a Subaru dealership near me with two of them right now, about 100k mi each, around $9k-$10k. Seems like a good deal if they have records of head gasket and timing belt change. Or should I hold out for a 2011-2012 manual?
2010-12 manuals are probably great buys, nothing bad, last of the EJ253 made with good head gaskets.

OEM clutch kits are available if need be.

2010 maybe got some issues with fit / finish being initial year.
 
1 - 13 of 13 Posts
Top