Subaru Outback Forums banner

1 - 7 of 7 Posts

·
Registered
'05 Outback Ltd
Joined
·
8 Posts
Discussion Starter #1
'05 outback. The drivers power seat switch for forward-back movement always would be testy. Moving back wasn't a problem. Moving forward required wiggling the switch a few times. I never bothered fixing.
We just took the wagon to the dealer for the airbag recall. The service guy moved the seat all the way back. Now the seat won't go forward. I reached under, the motor in front is hot. I'm assuming
1) that's the forward-back motor
2) the switch is stuck in "backwards" mode
I google'd for a fuse, I pulled SB-4 out from the engine compartment. I assume
3) that's the fuse to stop power to that motor

How do I move the seat forward now? Do I need to replace the switch? Can I remove the switch with the seat all the way back?

:13:

Thanks
 

·
Registered
2001 OBW VDC, 2004 WRX, 1999 LEGACY L (in a heap)
Joined
·
1,302 Posts
unless the motor has a physical turning key, it will be very hard to move it without current. If it was feasible, i'd replace the switch.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
18,305 Posts
The power windows (and the sunroof, if so equipped) uses the same fuse as the power seats. I presume the windows don't work with that fuse removed.

Rather than remove the fuse, there should be a flat, two-wire connector under the seat. This provides the power to that seat's switch, and from there to the motors on that seat. Disconnect that, and replace the fuse so that the windows can be used, if needed, in the meantime. (On the driver side, one of the wires to the connector is black, the other is white with a green stripe.)

If the switch was problematic for some time for going forward, it probably failed completely now. I'm fairly sure there are other threads about broken switches etc, that involved replacing or repairing the switch. A search should provide some how-to leads.
 

·
Registered
2008 OB Limited 2.5i, Portland OR USA
Joined
·
6,380 Posts
Did you try the simple thing first and spray some electrical contact cleaner into the switch? Given the behavior you describe, it sounds like dirty switch contacts.
 

·
Registered
'05 Outback Ltd
Joined
·
8 Posts
Discussion Starter #5
Update:
I wanted to take the whole seat out so I could comfortably work on the whole system. But since the seat was all the way back, the rear bolts holding the seat to the floor were not accessible. I got to the switch and was able to take it apart. I also have an '05 Legacy with the same switch so I tried that and nothing changed. I tried the same switch again, the motor would turn but with a clicking - like a gear was skipping. I took a socket to the nut of the worm screw(not sure if that's the right term?). The door side would move but, the shifter side nut would come loose. I took the cable out of the motor and hooked it up to a drill, used that and a socket on the nut. I managed to move the chair into a position so that it's drivable!
So it sounds like the worm gear is trashed on one if not both sides. and the motor might also be toast. Is it cheaper to try to repair\replace all of that or just get a used powered seat?
 

·
Registered
2008 OB Limited 2.5i, Portland OR USA
Joined
·
6,380 Posts
So it sounds like the worm gear is trashed on one if not both sides. and the motor might also be toast. Is it cheaper to try to repair\replace all of that or just get a used powered seat?
Buy used, as new is pretty expensive - note here:

https://www.subarugenuineparts.com/...as-engine/body-cat/front-seat-components-scat

(item 10 on power seat, hinge assembly).

But note that anything in a scrap yard may have the same situation as your assembly if it has high mileage. They also will likely want to sell the entire seat assembly as a unit, not part it out. The ones that seem to last only have seen one driver and don't have the seat position moved about all the time by every driver - meaning you'll have to test it to know what you're getting. Jumper a spare battery into the subject car and try it out with your weight in the seat (it should work without the ignition key).
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
18,305 Posts
Nice going! I didn't know the slide mechanism could be accessed without the whole seat being out, or at least the upper seat part separated from the mechanism base ("power and slide unit": https://parts.subaru.com/a/Subaru_2...T-SLIDE-RAILHINGE8WAY-POWERLH/B13-640-06.html. )

A used seat to just swap in is probably the easiest. But a good condition same color seat might be hard to find. Another possibility is a used seat in which the upper part is not in good shape but the mechanism works, and then just swap the good lower assembly, or parts from it, to your seat. No idea what the cost differences might be.

Keep up informed . . .

(ditto to johnre's post)
 
1 - 7 of 7 Posts
Top