[teaaron]

I'm looking at picking up an Outback as a 2nd vehicle as I just sold my 1991 Toyota MR2 (more of project that I expected) and I need to get you all's opinion on pricing.

Tuesday I lost out on a 2008 Outback 2.5i, auto with 57,xxx miles on, service history and a clean body from a local Ford Dealership. Asking pricing was around 12000 (not including fees, taxes, etc). Worked out a deal so I thought for $12,800 out the door (vehicle, all, fees, taxes, etc. included) which seemed to be reasonable but before I could make the hour plus drive down they sold it. The dealer sucked at communication, I'll leave it at that.

Yesterday, I looked at a 2009 Outback 2.5i XT, auto with 81,xxx miles on, service history and clean body (not quite as clean as the 08) from a Volvo dealer. Asking price was a tad under 15k :surprise: which I already knew seemed high before looking at it. Came home did some more research and decided today to offer 13k which seemed inline with what I was finding online (Trucar, Cargurus, NADA, Carfax, autotrader, Edmunds, etc.). They expressly rejected that offer and made some claim that they do alot of research before pricing a used vehicle for sale and would only come down a couple of hundred (maybe). Also, noted that taxes, fees, licenses, etc was an additional 3k so total vehicle cost of 18k :surprise:.

At that point I just stepped away.

Does that pricing just seem out of line or is that just me?

 

[WantAnOutback]

It's out of line in my opinion but XT's are somewhat rare and 81k miles for a 2009 is sort of low miles. Assuming you know the XT is a turbo. The XT is a bit of a high needs car and needs to be looked after. The car is 9 years old and 2 models back from current. With more average for the age miles, they are well under 10k and non turbos closer to 5-6k.

Here is a 2009 2.5i with 140k miles for 5k.
https://vermont.craigslist.org/cto/6177839546.html

Here is an XT (turbo) 2008 with 123k for 5.5k. A beauty!!! That one almost makes you wonder a little.
https://vermont.craigslist.org/cto/6189086012.html

You are all going to get me in trouble... haha..I'm going to buy up all the Outbacks on Craigslist.

 

[isis]

Is that US or Canadian?

 

[teaaron]

WantAnOutback - Yes, I know its a turbo and special needs.

isis - US

 

[rasterman]

I have a hard time imagining any XT today fetching more than $15k

That said it is worth comparing it to this current listing from another member.

 

[isis]

I find it hard to believe an 09 is worth double what an 05 reasonably costs. I know they're more desirable but they're gonna have the same after-purchase costs and headaches.

 

[deadend9009]

There was a 2007 2.5i, auto, with 137 000 km (about 80k miles) that sold for 7000 CDN here (located in Montreal). I thought that was expensive, your experience is another level! Come buy your car here!

 

[kingpinXT2005]

TBH an 09 is worlds better than an 05. If I could I would change to an 09 in a heartbeat. Better radio (plus mp3 connection) SI drive. My 05 is great but you are stuck with the lack of tech, a catted uppipe and a computer that wants to counter your every move. $15k for anything UNDER 80k in miles is decent. If properly maintained, no body damage, etc even extra mods makes it worth it IF you want to venture down the turbo path.

 

[outback_mtl]

There was a 2007 2.5i, auto, with 137 000 km (about 80k miles) that sold for 7000 CDN here (located in Montreal). I thought that was expensive, your experience is another level! Come buy your car here!

I bought my 2007 2.5i 5mt with 168,000km for 3900$ in March here in montreal.

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[rasterman]

TBH an 09 is worlds better than an 05. If I could I would change to an 09 in a heartbeat. Better radio (plus mp3 connection) SI drive. My 05 is great but you are stuck with the lack of tech, a catted uppipe and a computer that wants to counter your every move. $15k for anything UNDER 80k in miles is decent. If properly maintained, no body damage, etc even extra mods makes it worth it IF you want to venture down the turbo path.

All of the stereos are bad, even the late model ones. Costs the same to convert to aftermarket standard size for all model years.

I think the cat in the up-pipe is a bogeyman. I still don't know anyone who actually had a problem with this. I've got over 180k on my own with no issues- knock wood.

The SI drive never held much appeal for me. Just takes up more space than the previous setup where it is linked to the shifter mode.

2007+ gives you those awesome intake manifold seals that leak when it's cold.

2009 has that secondary air injector that uses up every last millimeter of underhood space that was left and finds neat ways to give you emissions codes.

2007+ has the "black box" automatic transmission, can't put a shift-kit in it.

Mind you, there are other things about the later ones that I do like... but far and away the most valuable attributes to me are "well cared for" and "very low miles" and model year has little to do with either of those.

 

[isis]

All of the stereos are bad, even the late model ones. Costs the same to convert to aftermarket standard size for all model years.

I think the cat in the up-pipe is a bogeyman. I still don't know anyone who actually had a problem with this. I've got over 180k on my own with no issues- knock wood.

The SI drive never held much appeal for me. Just takes up more space than the previous setup where it is linked to the shifter mode.

2007+ gives you those awesome intake manifold seals that leak when it's cold.

2009 has that secondary air injector that uses up every last millimeter of underhood space that was left and finds neat ways to give you emissions codes.

2007+ has the "black box" automatic transmission, can't put a shift-kit in it.

Mind you, there are other things about the later ones that I do like... but far and away the most valuable attributes to me are "well cared for" and "very low miles" and model year has little to do with either of those.

Without going through point by point, I'm in this boat as well. A couple more gadgets and 30k less miles isn't worth double when all the suspension rubber is still likely crap and the turbo and motor is a ticking timebomb anywhere after 90k depending on it's past history. For that money you can do a lot better. I like my 3rd gen (almost) as much as the next sicko on this board but that's approaching insanity.

 

[jonnylaw13]

this just makes me think of how newb pwnd i got :/

 

[teaaron]

Bought a 2015.

 

[kingpinXT2005]

Entirely true Rasterman! I wouldn't mind some tech in my '05, will have to hunt the forum for any options for the stereo but I have a feeling it's pretty limited right?

I feel like any year of the XT is a gamble, comes with the territory. And like you knock on wood I haven't had any real issues that have drained the wallet. Sooner or later things break down. I'm shy of 100k on mine, all miles by me but I know things will appear in time. She certainly doesn't like the cold....nor do I so every winter I start praying that we can make it through the winter together.