[scoobydoo2]

...how about taking out the reflector on the rear bumper and putting them in there....

 

[scoobydoo2]

Not sure but I believe the Euro model and maybe even the JDM have lights in that space. This looks promising.

 

[scoobydoo2]

The VLed panels are bright enough. Have one of the 12 led 6watt panels to insert into the bumper reflectors. Light goes through very well. I will attempt to take a pic this week of the light in the reflector. Have tocut them open first

...take pics of the process you go through to do this. I would really like to see that. I have had that reflector out...it is very skinny

 

[scoobydoo2]

I think this actually might help in heavy fog.

...that is exactly the point! They are a safety feature when used properly in the conditions they were intended for. Europeans have always been ahead of the curve when it comes to car safety. Most of the safety features in American made cars were in European cars long before they were here.

I think this whole debate about it is mute (moot). It works...North American manufacturers don't see it as a selling feature and therefore won't put them on their vehicles...safety has nothing to do with it....:2cents:

 

[scoobydoo2]

Likewise, Canadian drivers cannot be cited for having rear fog lights (or using them, if they are connected with front fog lights) because in Canada, these rear fog lights are mandatory!
Hoppyjr is right!

...Yikes...I guess I had better get one on quick...lol. Definitely not mandatory here. I don't think that there is any provincial legislation for them at all...at least not in our province.

 

[scoobydoo2]

We are all "experts" here... relax! Enjoy life!
What I meant is that driving lights are mandatory in Canada! Had those mixed up...

...what...? I need lights to drive? Oh no :gasp: Now I have to start using them....:2: lolol.

I was kidding folks...tongue in cheek...I do however think that rear fogs being mandatory would be a great idea. Just another great safety feature we would adopt from the European auto makers...like so many others that we have jacked from their models and put on ours.