Good point Mcb, do not use rear fogs except in low vis conditions.
My 05 Jaguar X-Type Sport Wagon was the same way.My Jaguar X-Type Sport had rear fog lights, they were built right in and connected to the main lighting control on the dash.
It was an American spec car, bought and drove here.
There are drivers-ed schools in this country??? At the rate of about 93 people a day, with which we kill each-other off on the roads, I would be shocked if there were....I really, REALLY want to smash people's rear fog lights out when they drive with them on all the time. I follow a lot of BMW, Mercedes, and Lexus cars with the rear fogs on in perfectly clear weather. At night, it can be blinding. I got over people's using front fog lights all the time... Most American drivers call them 'driving' lights and think they should be on all the time. The rest of us (Americans) think that parking lights are driving lights. I guess they don't teach this stuff too well in driving school.
Has anyone succeeded in getting the rear fog reflectors opened? I bought an extra one with my last order from an online Subaru parts dealer to experiment. I tried to use a relatively standard procedure that folks use to open up their headlight assemblies (225 degrees F in the oven) and they started to melt after about 20 min. I had no luck in getting the two sides to separate - it appears that the red and grey plastic are actually welded or melted together not glued.
rear fogs are used in european countries, since longtime ago....never seen it here on north americaWinter and fog seems to be a good time to discuss this. Anyone use them and if so where, what and how is it mounted?
Here is a photo gallery..
The Effectiveness of Rear Fog Lights [HD] - YouTube
2013 Euromodels (Outbacks) have it in the rear left backup light...I know that for sure!Not sure but I believe the Euro model and maybe even the JDM have lights in that space. This looks promising.
Yes, I purchased an LED rear fog light from Amazon and installed it under the bumper on the left. The only hassle was running a hot wire from the dash to the light in the back, but it was easy to fish without taking everything apart. The light is on a switch that I mounted on a switch blank on the left side of the dash.Budaru installed an outside red rear fog light that he mounted under the rear bumper, that is yet another alternative solution.
I like this idea a lot and plan to investigate it myself. It looks like there's room to install one of those flat LED arrays and bring the wire out the hole. Two things bother me about it though:Grabbed my GoPro, and went and did some 'vestigatin. Here's what I found...
This is what the back of the reflector looks like.
That hole looks perfect to mount an LED in...
Also, it's hollow. There's probably a quarter inch gap between the "cover" and the actual reflective surface on the back.
Then, on the bumper itself, there's a thru hole, to pass the wiring through.
It's almost like Subaru designed the car for this, either as standard equipment in some places, or as an easy mod.
While I can't speak to the second question (shining through reflector) I can address the first question - the LED panels are extremely bright! I had a chance to see that when I was up at VLED's last week with my son's Audi. Good stuff. :29:I like this idea a lot and plan to investigate it myself. It looks like there's room to install one of those flat LED arrays and bring the wire out the hole. Two things bother me about it though:
- are those flat LED panels bright enough?
- Since the red lens is made to reflect light from the outside, how much of the LED light would pass though it from the back, or would it just glow?
One other thought would be to use a bright LED bulb like Jogosub did and mount it behind. You'd need to cut off some of the plastic backing and maybe a bit of the bumper plastic behind the light, and then glue a light socket with enclosure behind everything to make it weatherproof. That may work too, depending on access behind. Hopefully one of use will figure this out. Then I'd move my wiring from the external rear fog I have now, to the new fog light behind the reflector.
Great! Thanks for letting us know that it works. If you have a moment, I'd appreciate further details on the cutting, installation, and maybe a photo or two. I've already ordered a spare reflector so I have a backup, and I ordered a led panel as well, so I'll be ready o go soon.The VLed panels are bright enough. Have one of the 12 led 6watt panels to insert into the bumper reflectors. Light goes through very well. I will attempt to take a pic this week of the light in the reflector. Have tocut them open first