You are better off with the extra fob. The way Subaru does remote start on the SAP is to trigger it off the existing door lock receiver which already works with the remotes. This comes at a price. You no longer have 2 way feedback and your range is greatly reduced.When we were looking at 2012s, I didn't want remote start because of the extra fob on the keyring. If they are integrated, that would be great.
The remote start is available with SAP not part of it. There are two versions of remote start, one for SAP and another for other trim levels.I thought I read someplace that remote start was not available on the SAP. Are you implying that the SAP adds remote start as part of the package?
Sorry, I didn't mean to suggest that there are 2 factory remote start options with the SAP. The only factory option is the one integrated with the key fob. There won't be a separate rs button on the fob. You remote start the car by pushing an existing button multiple times. This is the way most of the manufactures do it. What I was trying to point out is that the integrated RS on the SAP has nowhere near the range of the non-sap RS or the many aftermarket ones available. If I was ordering a SAP I think I would order it without a RS and add an aftermarket one later unless you are sure you are ok with the reduced range and lack of 2 way feedback.I guess I'm not following the responses. Latigo says it's all one integrated unit. mpnret says you are better off with two fobs. So I am confused, are there two ways to order it, (one integrated fob, or two fobs)?
Back to basics on my loosely worded question.... with a limited with SAP, if you have remote start, is there ONE fob with the four following buttons:
-doors unlock
-doors lock
-panic
AND
-engine start
Is there a link to pic of whatever it ends up to be? Thanks you for your help!
The remote start on the SAP works by pushing the lock button twice within 2 sec then a third holding it for 3 sec. Works fine for me, I really only use the remote in the winter to get the ice off the car in the morning so have no use for remotes that work 3 football fields away. On non SAP remote starters you get the second fob and a longer distance, on my 2010 Legacy remote the two way communication stopped working after a few months anyway.I guess I'm not following the responses. Latigo says it's all one integrated unit. mpnret says you are better off with two fobs. So I am confused, are there two ways to order it, (one integrated fob, or two fobs)?
Back to basics on my loosely worded question.... with a limited with SAP, if you have remote start, is there ONE fob with the four following buttons:
-doors unlock
-doors lock
-panic
AND
-engine start
Is there a link to pic of whatever it ends up to be? Thanks you for your help!
I have the same type remote start in my Nissan keyless start. As you said it works great for getting ice off in the morning, etc. I do find it a little disappointing sometimes like when it's really cold out and you want to start the car from inside a restaurant. The building walls really cut down the range plus you have the timing issue of 3 button pushes, you can't see your car and to top it off there's no 2 way feedback so you can't even tell if your car started. My 2010 OB factory RS really shines there with good range and 2 way feedback. Nothing wrong with the SAP RS as long as you realize its limitations.The remote start on the SAP works by pushing the lock button twice within 2 sec then a third holding it for 3 sec. Works fine for me, I really only use the remote in the winter to get the ice off the car in the morning so have no use for remotes that work 3 football fields away. On non SAP remote starters you get the second fob and a longer distance, on my 2010 Legacy remote the two way communication stopped working after a few months anyway.
That is my one gripe with my RS on my Impreza. It would be nice if the vehicle stayed running when a door is opened. I much prefer our GM remote start where the vehicle keeps running when you open a door. You simply insert the key into the ignition, rotate it to the ON position and go.Your use for it may not be effective, the factory systems shut the vehicle off when any door is opened.
The shutting off thing works ok for me but if its really an issue for anyone threre is another thread with a couple of workarounds complete with pics.The feedback on the other factory system involves the button blinking to indicate the vehicle started. Your use for it may not be effective, the factory systems shut the vehicle off when any door is opened.
I thought that was a funny post. Calling Subaru would be a waste of time with a question like this.Ok... Ok... it's getting clearer. What is the two way feedback I'm losing? The whole appeal of keyless is so my wife can just leave a key in her purse and fuggettaboutit. Just touch and go. I would only use the remote start to get the car going a few seconds before I got in to cool it a bit, like walking to it in a parking lot. Other than that, it's garaged in a 50 degree garage in the winter.
Feedback description, anyone?
Someone made the comment, "call Subaru". Sorry, that didn't cross my mind. I have been looking at an upscale brand-x vehicle, and calling their customer service was totally useless. Totally!!!