SoCal Wilderness buyers. $5k over MSRP?

Alice The Cat said:

I just got a quote from Glendale Subaru (The largest Subaru dealer in the world) and they want $5000 over MSRP. I'm totally new to Subaru, is that how most dealers are? I'm in San Diego but willing to drive north if anyone has any suggestions.

This is my first post but I've learned so much lurking on this forum. Thank you all in advance.

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I bought my 20 Touring XT from Glendale Subaru in Dec 2019. I had to order it and paid cash for it. I got some discount off MSRP but I will NEVER buy from Glendale Subaru again. They are a slimy. untoward organization. I filed complaints with BBB and SOA; all of which fell on deaf ears. My issue was having to run a credit report and not providing me a copy as required by law. Mind you, this was for a cash transaction. No credit or financing involved. I made SOA change my preferred dealer after buying the car. The Glendale Subaru sales person was decent but the Finance person and General Manager were certified dirt bags. I would gladly pay a little more but certainly not over MSRP and use another dealer. If the only way to get the car was by paying over MSRP, I will wait. I did not need a new car but I wanted the 20 Touring XT to replace my 12 Limited. Had I known that Glendale Subaru were the slime balls they turned out to be, I would have taken my business elsewhere.