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Today I was playing in snow with my OB.
I realized pretty quickly that you need to turn OFF the RAB (reverse automatic braking)(tks brucey for the tip) if you want to (plow) park backward in a snow bank.

But the problem I encounter was going up a steep snow hill forward.
Eye sight with pre collision was continously flashing and cutting down the power. Leaving me unable to climb the snow bank.

Anyone experiencing this type of issue with Steep hill and eyesight.

I know OB dont have the best angle of attack, but on the other hand I did not buy it to be a jeep rock crawler either.

But I never had problem going up steep hill with my old 2012 OB (no eyesight)

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Just so many things to turn off just to have some fun !
Granted, I would be nice if there was a single and accesabble "off road" setting that shut down these multiple sytems for playtime. That said, collisions are no fun either. Someday you might be grateful that these features are there.
 

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"Off road" setting could be simply link as when you activate X-mode.
Since X-mode can only be used at low speed it would be ideal to have RAB and/or pre collision deactivated also in this mode.
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Likely also handy when your at the ramp and backing a boat down. Hit X mode and your done!
 

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But the problem I encounter was going up a steep snow hill forward.
Eye sight with pre collision was continously flashing and cutting down the power. Leaving me unable to climb the snow bank.
My life experience says that it's the traction control that is killing the power, not EyeSight. My car won't move in deep snow without hitting the button. That's not unique to Subaru. You see tons of crossovers "stuck" in ski area parking lots every big storm because the owners have no idea that when the wheels slip, traction control kills the throttle.
 

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I could be wrong.
But with the Onyx (Outdoor XT in canada)
There is no need to turn off vehicle dynamics.
You have 2 type of X-mode.
And based on my own experiment in trying to get stuck in snow with my OB Onyx,
Never had to play with vehicle dynamics to get out of bad spot. One of the 2 X-mode always does the job to get me out of my snow pit.
 

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"Off road" setting could be simply link as when you activate X-mode.
Since X-mode can only be used at low speed it would be ideal to have RAB and/or pre collision deactivated also in this mode.
My 2 cent
well, that's what the dual x-mode does... the deep snow/mud setting on your Onyx will disable the vehicle dynamics and the pre-collision braking/throttle management. The normal Xmode setting will just switch to x-mode and not disable those other two things (cars without the dual xmode have to hit a few more buttons to get the same thing).
 

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Not True (for pre collision)
I've just tested it this morning
On the same hill/slope as before.
Even with X-mode Deep mud or Snow dirt enable.
I still get the : pre collision alert
& kills the throttle.
 

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It鈥檚 not because of the snow. It鈥檚 the slope. On my 2019 OBT the AEB will engage going up my steep driveway if I don鈥檛 go slowly. It seems to 鈥渟ee鈥 the house across the street and brake the vehicle on the middle of the hill. Just a dandy little electronic wonder, it is.

Note in the ES manual (I looked it up in aggravation) the many situations where the system doesn鈥檛 work well. I consider the frequent false alarms to be a real PITA rather than safer driving.


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Not True (for pre collision)
I've just tested it this morning
On the same hill/slope as before.
Even with X-mode Deep mud or Snow dirt enable.
I still get the : pre collision alert
& kills the throttle.
interesting. It's even less interesting of a shortcut than we've been told in that case.
 

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Lol I almost took a video since I knew ppl would be skeptical about it.;)
Maybe a Canadian thing like you said
 

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Yeah I was told it disables forward collision.

In fact:

@Carl Abrams can you confirm @Kkhouday is functioning properly?

Possibly a Canada thing?
Normal functioning of the eyesight system..

It sounds like throttle management kicking in. When we go to pull the cars up onto pad in front of the dealership, like we're trying to get them under cover to avoid Oklahoma hard rain (aka hail), we pull them straight in. We can get the front tires up and on with no problem. The rear tires, we have to turn collision avoidance off because throttle management kills the power so we don't run into the building. Has nothing to do with X-mode - other than with dual mode x-mode, it'll turn eyesight off.
 

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Normal functioning of the eyesight system..

It sounds like throttle management kicking in. When we go to pull the cars up onto pad in front of the dealership, like we're trying to get them under cover to avoid Oklahoma hard rain (aka hail), we pull them straight in. We can get the front tires up and on with no problem. The rear tires, we have to turn collision avoidance off because throttle management kills the power so we don't run into the building. Has nothing to do with X-mode - other than with dual mode x-mode, it'll turn eyesight off.
Would mud and snow mode disable front collision avoidance?
 

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Would mud and snow mode disable front collision avoidance?
We were TOLD that's what it's supposed to do, at our ride and drive for the 2019 Forester, because of the potential / probability that you're going to be doing fun things. (And it does that on my 2019 Forester.) Which is what I've been telling my customers. However, from what's been described on here, it's NOT doing that. Due to the differences in the head units between Forester and Outback, they may have (meaning, probably) programmed the Outback differently, requiring you to turn collision avoidance off on your own, since it's not push buttons in the Outback, it's all controlled via the screen.
 
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