In my case it was a matter of swapping before delivery with me paying for the tires on top of the negotiated vehicle purchase price. The dealer worked hard with a local tire dealer and got me a $75 credit per tire, so the new triple treads cost me $300.00.
swap tires when picking it up?
Some of you guys mentioned that you swapped the OEM conti' tires with Goodyear, michelin......
So did you do it when placing the order? e.g. told the sales that you want to swap tires and your price was based on the new tires. Or you guys just did it at the time you picked up your car?
I just don't know how it works.
Thanks!
So did you do it when placing the order? e.g. told the sales that you want to swap tires and your price was based on the new tires. Or you guys just did it at the time you picked up your car?
I just don't know how it works.
Thanks!
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Thanks chip-3!
So how did you do with your OEM tires?
So how did you do with your OEM tires?
I swapped for Goodyear TripleTreds as well, but my dealer came back with a ridiculous price which more or less indicated to me that they didn't want any part of it. Fair enough, I took delivery of my car (they trucked it to me), drove it straight to Discount Tire, they gave me $35/tire for the OEM tires and sold me the TTs at the Tirerack online price plus there was/is a Goodyear rebate on now. All in all, a reasonable deal.
My justification was easy. I have had the Contis before and they sucked in my opinion and I've had the TTs and they border on amazing. If you do the math, it's almost a wash in my mind. The TTs will cost you roughtly $500 bucks to swap out, but that includes free replacement certificates for all four tires so if anything happens, free tire. One nail and it pays for itself and with the debris on the road here, it happens far too often and with how long the TTs last, this is inevitable in the 4+ years you'll likely roll the tires.
Assuming you rotate the OEMs every 3750 miles per the service manual and the tires last for 40k, you'll rotate them 10 times at $15 each for a total of $250 before they go to tire heaven. Add to that the cost of rebalancing if needed, and by the sounds of it, I think the OEM tires have serious balancing issues which will add even more $$. With Discount, you get free rotations and rebalancing for the life of the tire and the TTs come with an 80k mile pro-rated warranty.
Perverted logic or not, I figured I wasn't really losing anything other than an initial out of pocket hit in swapping them out. Buying a new car anyway, the hit is already there, I just incrementally worsened it!
Just my 2 pennies....
My justification was easy. I have had the Contis before and they sucked in my opinion and I've had the TTs and they border on amazing. If you do the math, it's almost a wash in my mind. The TTs will cost you roughtly $500 bucks to swap out, but that includes free replacement certificates for all four tires so if anything happens, free tire. One nail and it pays for itself and with the debris on the road here, it happens far too often and with how long the TTs last, this is inevitable in the 4+ years you'll likely roll the tires.
Assuming you rotate the OEMs every 3750 miles per the service manual and the tires last for 40k, you'll rotate them 10 times at $15 each for a total of $250 before they go to tire heaven. Add to that the cost of rebalancing if needed, and by the sounds of it, I think the OEM tires have serious balancing issues which will add even more $$. With Discount, you get free rotations and rebalancing for the life of the tire and the TTs come with an 80k mile pro-rated warranty.
Perverted logic or not, I figured I wasn't really losing anything other than an initial out of pocket hit in swapping them out. Buying a new car anyway, the hit is already there, I just incrementally worsened it!
Just my 2 pennies....
thanks MtnBikr!
I will seriously consider swapping them out
I will seriously consider swapping them out
I talked to the local Discount tire store. They said they would give me $50 each for my Continentals if > 1000 miles on them. II advertised them on Craigs list for $240, had two guys very interested, but they backed out when I said I wanted them to meet me at the tire store & pay as I got my new ones mounted.
I plan to order Michelin Primacy MXV4 a week before my car arrives & get them swapped almost immediately. The MXV4 does not come in a 225-60x 17 so I will be getting 235 -55 x17. This size is just under 1% of the OEM tire. I anticipate better traction all around, especially with ice braking and slightly better MPG based on Tire Rack & Consumers Reports. This tire ranked # 1 with both outfits -- now that is unusual!
I plan to order Michelin Primacy MXV4 a week before my car arrives & get them swapped almost immediately. The MXV4 does not come in a 225-60x 17 so I will be getting 235 -55 x17. This size is just under 1% of the OEM tire. I anticipate better traction all around, especially with ice braking and slightly better MPG based on Tire Rack & Consumers Reports. This tire ranked # 1 with both outfits -- now that is unusual!
Hell yes, swap 'em out.
I didn't want to drive around for a year or two saying to myself "sure cant wait to wear these things out, so I can get some Triple Treds".
KB
I didn't want to drive around for a year or two saying to myself "sure cant wait to wear these things out, so I can get some Triple Treds".
KB
swap tires
Thank you guys all for your suggestions!
So I see some of you guys went with goodyear tripletread while others chose Michelin. Which one would you guys suggest to go with?
Thank you guys all for your suggestions!
So I see some of you guys went with goodyear tripletread while others chose Michelin. Which one would you guys suggest to go with?
Re: swap tires
Either are good tires, mainly depends upon your region. If I faced more snow and ice I would have gone with the Tripletred. Since my area has more rain and flash flooding to contend with Hydroedge were my choice.goodluck2010 said:Thank you guys all for your suggestions!
So I see some of you guys went with goodyear tripletread while others chose Michelin. Which one would you guys suggest to go with?
I called Michelin today and they recommended the Harmony’s
I'd look into the Michelin MXV4. Pretty good in everything except ice and a comfortable tire overall.
I had those on my BMW X3 and loved them.AWDFTW said:I'd look into the Michelin MXV4. Pretty good in everything except ice and a comfortable tire overall.
Unfortunately they don’t come in the size required for the Outback.
That is why I called Michelin and asked what is closest.
Michelin MXV4s were rated among the best ("very good") for braking on ice according to Consumer's Reports latest tire tests (Nov 09), GY Triple Treads rated as good.
It is true that the MXV4s do not come in stock OEM 225-60 x 17 size. So I have ordered the MXV4s in 235-55 x 17. A bit of a gamble as wider tires may slide more on ice (these are .3" wider than stock). But am taking the bet that they will still be the best for the occasional black ice conditions I face & better for day to day handling. They are are also `1% shorter which, along with the wider tread may improve overall handling.
Lord willing I will have my car & get the MXV4s mounted in the next 2 weeks. Discount tire gave me $240 trade in value for the OEM Continental tires. I will report on these after a few drives.
Bottom line: Both MXV4s & GY Triple Treads are great tires & odds are that most of us will never be able to detect the difference! :8: Basically can't go wrong with either one.
For that matter the ContiProContact (H rated - the OB's is T rated so may not be a fair comparison) is apparently is not an bad tire - CR actually ranked it equal to the Michelin Pilot Exalto A/S & at least one member of this forum gave them a thumbs up. That said, they don't fare too well with the owner reports from Tire Rack
It is true that the MXV4s do not come in stock OEM 225-60 x 17 size. So I have ordered the MXV4s in 235-55 x 17. A bit of a gamble as wider tires may slide more on ice (these are .3" wider than stock). But am taking the bet that they will still be the best for the occasional black ice conditions I face & better for day to day handling. They are are also `1% shorter which, along with the wider tread may improve overall handling.
Lord willing I will have my car & get the MXV4s mounted in the next 2 weeks. Discount tire gave me $240 trade in value for the OEM Continental tires. I will report on these after a few drives.
Bottom line: Both MXV4s & GY Triple Treads are great tires & odds are that most of us will never be able to detect the difference! :8: Basically can't go wrong with either one.
For that matter the ContiProContact (H rated - the OB's is T rated so may not be a fair comparison) is apparently is not an bad tire - CR actually ranked it equal to the Michelin Pilot Exalto A/S & at least one member of this forum gave them a thumbs up. That said, they don't fare too well with the owner reports from Tire Rack
IIRC, a Michelin tech said that traction was 2/3 tread pattern and 1/3 tire compounddovidan said:For that matter the ContiProContact (H rated - the OB's is T rated so may not be a fair comparison) is apparently is not an bad tire - CR actually ranked it equal to the Michelin Pilot Exalto A/S & at least one member of this forum gave them a thumbs up. That said, they don't fare too well with the owner reports from Tire Rack [/B]
(could've been in the last C&D with the Michelin tire test?). So the T-rated Conti probably wouldn't fair quite as well.
I've got Primacy Alpin PA3's (215/65/16-98H) mounted on the 16" styled-steel Forester wheels (from 2003-2007?) for the winter. I haven't got any snow, but they're MUCH smoother than the stock tires. No highway vibration at all.
Also, I believe H-rated tires typically have an entire ply of reinforcement material (in order to meet the higher speed rating), rather than reinforcement strips. They're simply constructed better. If you go to a higher speed rating, just make sure you check out the treadwear rating if you put a lot of miles on your car! (unfortunatey there isn't UTQG ratings for winter tires).
Harplayr said:I called Michelin today and they recommended the Harmony’s
Nice tire and they are pretty good in the wet stuff but I have found them much noiser than a premium touring tire like the Primacy or Serenity.
Switched to the Primacy MXV4s on my 1998 Honda Accord Coupe V6. Very nice so far!
Let us know how they do on the Outback. Be interested to see what impact the size difference has.
Let us know how they do on the Outback. Be interested to see what impact the size difference has.
It doesn't look like the Primacy or Serenity's come in the correct size.pgh said:
Nice tire and they are pretty good in the wet stuff but I have found them much noiser than a premium touring tire like the Primacy or Serenity.
The Michelin Hydroedge does come up on Tire Rack's list for the car as well as the Goodyear Trippletreds.
They rank them #1 and #2 respectively.
What would you choose between them?
I live in Central Illinois, so we do get snow and ice during the winters, but I am also looking for ride comfort and handling.
The november consumer reports ranks them #1 and #4.Harplayr said:
It doesn't look like the Primacy or Serenity's come in the correct size.
The Michelin Hydroedge does come up on Tire Rack's list for the car as well as the Goodyear Trippletreds.
They rank them #1 and #2 respectively.
What would you choose between them?
I live in Central Illinois, so we do get snow and ice during the winters, but I am also looking for ride comfort and handling.
Wet braking: Hydroedge excellent; triple tread very good
Handling: Hydro very good; triple good
Snow traction: Hydro fair; triple good
Noise: Hydro good; tripel very good.
Tread life: Hydro excellent; Tripel good.
All other categories were equal for those two.
What would I choose? Well if I was going for an all-season, I'd go for the Primacy MXV4 with the H-speed rating (their #1 H-speed rating performance all-season):
3-season driving all very good; snow traction good, ice breaking very good; ride very good, noise good, rolling resistance excellent, tread life very good.
A 235 is only 5 mm wider on each side (about 3/16 of an inch for those that keep the metric system down).
I agree with you assessment of the Primacy MXV4.s as I had them on my BMW X3 and thought they were excellent tires.DerekH said:
The november consumer reports ranks them #1 and #4.
Wet braking: Hydroedge excellent; triple tread very good
Handling: Hydro very good; triple good
Snow traction: Hydro fair; triple good
Noise: Hydro good; tripel very good.
Tread life: Hydro excellent; Tripel good.
All other categories were equal for those two.
What would I choose? Well if I was going for an all-season, I'd go for the Primacy MXV4 with the H-speed rating (their #1 H-speed rating performance all-season):
3-season driving all very good; snow traction good, ice breaking very good; ride very good, noise good, rolling resistance excellent, tread life very good.
A 235 is only 5 mm wider on each side (about 3/16 of an inch for those that keep the metric system down).
The don’t come in the recommended size though, and I am reluctant to put a different size tire on my Outback not knowing any possible adverse effects it may have.
Out of those two tires (Trippletred or Primacy) which on would you pick for a Midwest driver?
It seems to me that the tripletred would be the best choice for you for 2 reasons
1) exactly the same size as OEM, the size the car's designers specified
2) more aggresive tread than either the primacy or hydroedge, for the significant amounts of snow you get there,
I bought them twice now, they have served me very well so far. My 2 cents worth....
1) exactly the same size as OEM, the size the car's designers specified
2) more aggresive tread than either the primacy or hydroedge, for the significant amounts of snow you get there,
I bought them twice now, they have served me very well so far. My 2 cents worth....
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