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I paid almost 10% in the U.S. Six stitches
What does that mean? 10% of what, a new car purchase?
The HC system here (Ontario) is an interesting one, and you cannot surmise that because you might speak to an Albertan that it is the same in terms of efficiency for me. To give anyone who cares a bit of perspective, I pay $42 or more for a 2-4 of beer. A decent 26-er (you might call it a fifth) of rye is $42. Smokes (I don't) around $15. Then 13% on just about everything that isn't deemed an essential except for the beer and booze - no further tax so it must be essential ;)
However, if I break something and it needs a cast, no charge. If I got cancer and had 2 rounds of $100K chemo, no charge for the docs or drugs. Biggest problem is the waiting, primarily due to the lack of specialists or other resources. My wife had back surgery a few months ago. Took 2 years to see the specialist, get the tests and do the operation (spinal surgeons are rare in my town) but she's cured and it didn't cost us a penny. I think I will take the inefficiencies over the torture of knowing I'm about to go bankrupt over something serious. Now that might not be a fair statement because I don't really understand the US system completely but I hear and read a lot of anecdotes like yours. Oh and btw, if you have cancer or something as serious, the wait isn't the same for something non life threatening.
 

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I got that. I guess I just didn't know that there was any state with a tax rate that high. I can't recall being in any that were higher than around 7.5
 

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9.65% sales tax my area of Kansas City, KS. Some are at a full 10%.
 

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I know this is the wrong forum but the principle of the question is the same.....I have tried to set up an account on the NAIOC website but can't get it to accept my registration so I am coming here where I always get good info from a more seasoned crowd...

I am purchasing an Impreza with my son and have gotten the followng pricing 2020 Premium with the Package 14 (moonroof, back up safety, lane change etc.) for $23k ($25,189 all in) with or the same vehicle in a 2021 for $24k ($26,250 all in) Dealer is in MD.

......basically can I expect that the deprecation on the 20 to be greater than the $1k price difference given we are already at the end of the model year and does it make sense to pay the extra $1k dor the '21 and not take as big a hit on the depreciation side if that is the case...Assume the car will be sold in 4-5 years. Taking a 48 month loan with $15k down.
Does that seem like an appropriate price gap between the 2 vehicle years?

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I'd do the 2021 Impreza for the new engine management performance system on the Premium trim that's not on the 2020.
 

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If resale value is a priority, have you compared your choice with a Crosstrek?

They sell about twice as many Crosstreks as the whole Impreza line, and it's got the mini-SUV look that is popular. Seems to me this also means higher demand in the future and therefore higher resale.

Higher trims of the 2021 Crosstrek have the 2.5 engine, which would also be a resale plus IMO. Crosstrek "costs more" I guess, but throws in some features and styling to set it off from the Impreza line. Better resale I would think.

My 2 cents.
 

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While it's no turbo, the 2.5 really helps the Crosstrek maintain power on highway passing maneuvers. I mean, it's only 30 hp and 30 ft-lb of torque, but it's noticable. If the Crosstrek had an "XT" variant with a 2.0T, that thing would haul.
 

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Thanks for the excellent information.
  • My son doesn't want the Crosstrek as it feels "too big", he prefers the smaller feeling car. If it were for me, I would definitely get the crosstrek
  • I was not aware of the new engine management upgrade. Not sure what it is but will search.
  • In terms of re-sale, it is about the value for the vehicle purchased even though there may be better vehicles for re-sale.
Looks like I am going to go with the '21.

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The engine management is SI-Drive.

It helps keep the engine rev’s higher to make more power quickly and stay in the power band sweet spot. It also amplifies the throttle response so you get more electronic throttle for less physical pushing.

While S mode doesn’t add horsepower I do like using it on the highway as it tends to stay in the higher revs and engine brake compared to I mode. Lots of videos for those, Google it.
 

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If resale value is a priority, have you compared your choice with a Crosstrek?

They sell about twice as many Crosstreks as the whole Impreza line, and it's got the mini-SUV look that is popular. Seems to me this also means higher demand in the future and therefore higher resale.

Higher trims of the 2021 Crosstrek have the 2.5 engine, which would also be a resale plus IMO. Crosstrek "costs more" I guess, but throws in some features and styling to set it off from the Impreza line. Better resale I would think.

My 2 cents.
Fwiw I had a 20 Crosstrek Sport as a loaner yesterday and I came away impressed. Drove very nice, plenty of power for all conditions, looked good to my eyes inside/out, decent interior space in a fairly small overall package. Only negative was road noise entering the cabin (which seems to be a Subaru thing).
 

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Fwiw I had a 20 Crosstrek Sport as a loaner yesterday and I came away impressed. Drove very nice, plenty of power for all conditions, looked good to my eyes inside/out, decent interior space in a fairly small overall package. Only negative was road noise entering the cabin (which seems to be a Subaru thing).
My wife upgraded her 2015 Impreza Sport to a 2020 Crosstrek this past spring. She was hesitant at first. "My car is fine." "There's no need for a NEW car." blah blah blah blah.

After the first day, she has not once regretted the Crosstrek over the Impreza. Not once.
 
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My wife upgraded her 2015 Impreza Sport to a 2020 Crosstrek this past spring. She was hesitant at first. "My car is fine." "There's no need for a NEW car." blah blah blah blah.

After the first day, she has not once regretted the Crosstrek over the Impreza. Not once.
My daughter's CX5 lease is ending and she looked at the Crosstrek. Liked everything about it except the hatch floor was too high and makes too high of a jump for the dog as she gets older.
 

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Having two older Dodd, I would look into a ramp. As dogs get older, you should limit jumping of any height.
 

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My daughter's CX5 lease is ending and she looked at the Crosstrek. Liked everything about it except the hatch floor was too high and makes too high of a jump for the dog as she gets older.
Having two older Dodd, I would look into a ramp. As dogs get older, you should limit jumping of any height.
Does Subaru offer an approved accessory dog ramp, or other pet accessories?
That would fit in with their pet-friendly focus.

edit: there is a pt# for an SOA pet ramp SOA733P100 – Pet Ramp – Subaru | Subaru
 

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Having two older Dodd, I would look into a ramp. As dogs get older, you should limit jumping of any height.
Agreed. We lift our 5 yo lab out of our OB because we can and it makes sense - watch them hit the ground and you can see the impact will add up over time. For now he jumps in easily himself but I'll be lifting him before much longer.
 

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Ok guys question for you all...purchased the Gold Plus warranty on a 2020 Outback Onyx...AFTER reading these forums I discovered that the price I paid ( $3695 ) was a negotiable price. I have reached out to SOA to see if I could price shop and get it lowered and yes I can, but only if I cancel the plan and pay separately for it- I currently have it bundled with the financing.

So SOA is offering me the following as an either or option.
1. Coupon for $500 worth of accessories
2. The first four maintenance services free

What would you all do? Cancel plan entirely and price shop or take one of the two options that I just listed.

Thanks in advance!
 
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