Blows my mind. Don't know what to say. Don't even know why I'm posting. Sad, sad.
Hopefully no subie peeps are directly impacted by this.
Hopefully no subie peeps are directly impacted by this.
Hit the nail on the head. These things don't happen overnight. This was a long process that culminated in todays' events.The Mentally ill and the "I don't want to get involved" attitude of our society will let these types of cases continue till people start asking that people behaving strange or who are going off the rails be checked on.
Just makes me angry as **** with these events when details come out that a few people had concerns about the person but never stepped up and had someone official check them over.
Just freaking horrible!!!!!!!!
Crazy I called the cops Monday this week had them check on a strange car with three people in it parked in a weird spot between two daycare centers and across the street from a HS. My son's daycare was one of the facilities. I mentioned the odd car to the folks working there only one had noticed it and no one thought about just asking the police to send someone by to check it out. Like I said the "I don't want to get involved mentality" of our society is nearly as bad as the actions these people take.
+1 Grossgary!my response via facebook:
We say to children, "It'll be alright". Serve Him, pray, push back the darkness, love at every turn and you have been true to your word. Stay true Connecticut.
Sooo if I brought my son up with no knowledge of God, (as I have no belief in such things), then at age 6 to 10, knowing nothing about God, they go straight to heaven, but when that child reaches age 20, and still has the same mindset, no belief in God, then they DON'T? just curious...The only thing about this that has any mercy at all is that these children are in heaven since they were not at an age of accountability as to whether they accept Christ as their Savior and Lord.
The same holds true for all the un-born babies that die each day.
I think they do.Sooo if I brought my son up with no knowledge of God, (as I have no belief in such things), then at age 6 to 10, knowing nothing about God, they go straight to heaven, but when that child reaches age 20, and still has the same mindset, no belief in God, then they DON'T? just curious...
I personally dont see this event leading to any change in our large society. We are too divided on these issues for any real change quickly.
Washington Post just put out a very interesting article of data surrounding the issue.
Twelve facts about guns and mass shootings in the United States
I'm with you 100% on this.I wonder what separates the people who go through with these kinds of acts from the people who glorify it (reddit.com/r/imgoingtohellforthis). Everyone wants to use the insanity label, but there are some sick fn people out there & the fact that people can joke about the deaths of 20 first graders is a sign that these people are everywhere. There no stopping this violence with the current consequence-free society we live in.
Have you tried putting someone in a mental institution? Unless someone has an obvious episode in front of a emergency responder or mental health professional it is near impossible. Asking a police officer to just go by and "check them over" -- what can the officer really do? What will they find in the belongings they are not allowed to search? What will they find wrong with a quiet introspective demeanor that was the cause for concern? Someone seeming strange or off a bit is not the same as someone who is ready to go on a killing rampage. Unfortunately, mental illness is not as cut and dry as we would like it to be and there is no distinction of rights for someone with a mental illness vs. someone without one -- nor am I suggesting that there should be a difference.Just makes me angry as **** with these events when details come out that a few people had concerns about the person but never stepped up and had someone official check them over.
Another problem with treating mental illness is that a lot of it is treatable, but not curable. Long-term stay is a less than ideal solution to helping affected individuals, but it is perhaps all that we really have to keep the affected individuals (and those around them) safe. Though, the money required for it is perhaps impractical. There are definitely two sides to every coin.We use to have government - run mental institutions to treat the mentally insane. Conservative backlash against the welfare state later contributed towards the abolishment of federal support for mental health institutions.
For situations like this--I know it will never happen--but I think the best thing anyone who cares about the welfare of society is to not overly publicize it. While it is a certainly a great tragedy when many individuals die, the amount of attention given to such an event is basically asking attention-seeking copy cats to go kill people. If we keep giving horrid acts immense national attention, the copy cats will keep pursuing the attention they want. Obviously, not all of these acts are from attention-seeking individuals, but I do believe that the ones immediately following a large news break tend more that direction. Again, I do not see this ever happening, but when the news media drags these events on for days and then more reports of shootings come out, it really makes me mad at the media organizations and ultimately at ourselves for taking such an interest in it (since the media tends to give us the news we are most interested in).Already yesterday there was another copy-cat shooting in Newport Beach, CA with 50 rounds in mall parking lot, sending people into a panic almost causing a stampede.
Though this is a common assessment, I think it is not a correct assessment. Im never under the impression that these people that do this are interested in taking their own life as the number one priority. I mean, people that just want to take their own life usually just do. Suicide is happening all the time. Im not sure I even really got that till I started doing daily reads of the National Park morning report website. There are suicides ALL the time in the National Parks that most never hear about. Usually with firearms I might add.I'm with you 100% on this.
If someone wants to take their life, go ahead and do it, in the woods so the coyotes and other predators have a chance to eat.
All this having to take others down with you is nuts.