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'78 chevrolet LUV pu Street rod I had too much fun!!!
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Currently own : '97 chevrolet cavalier Z-24 2.4l
'03 outback wagon 2.5l my dream wheeler!

I have noticed a pattern with a few of you that intriques me . Why do almost 90 % of you in this poll have a new car within 2yrs or less ? I 've had cars 5-10years without major problems . seems to me alot of lemons out there and you like dropping cash all over.:D
 

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scooby said:

I have noticed a pattern with a few of you that intriques me . Why do almost 90 % of you in this poll have a new car within 2yrs or less ? I 've had cars 5-10years without major problems . seems to me alot of lemons out there and you like dropping cash all over.:D
Well as one of the people changing cars regularly I would say it's not that they are lemons, mostly it's just that I LOVE cars and there's always some newer & better one just around the corner. Car design improves rapidly and I can honestly say that there's no way when I've changed cars there hasn't been some destinct advantage or improvement. Of course the other reason for change is that circumstances change, I got rid of my '94 540i which I loved, because my then GF hated it, I got rid of the Mazda 6 which I bought to please her, largely because the relationship ended very soon after I got it and it had bad memories attached to it.

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Karl
 

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Man...Can't believe this thread is still alive..

I've been hanging out in nabisco OT lately...However, I like to come back here for some adult conversation and intelligence. Outback owners are more mature IMHO.

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Well as one of the people changing cars regularly I would say it's not that they are lemons, mostly it's just that I LOVE cars and there's always some newer & better one just around the corner. Car design improves rapidly and I can honestly say that there's no way when I've changed cars there hasn't been some destinct advantage or improvement. Of course the other reason for change is that circumstances change, I got rid of my '94 540i which I loved, because my then GF hated it, I got rid of the Mazda 6 which I bought to please her, largely because the relationship ended very soon after I got it and it had bad memories attached to it.

Cheers,
Karl
Pat pat.. there there Karl..

Woot you traded in your 540i for a 6 cos of her?
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Luckily you bought an Outback, in the right colour too.:D
 

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Karl you really need a lesson in Leykis 101! Never change for a woman! now your left with mazda over a BMW what where you thinking!!! I hope the sex was great , but was it really worth it.........
As Homer would put it DOH!!!:rolleyes:
 

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Luckily you bought an Outback, in the right colour too.:D
Yep it all worked out for the best, and my current partner loved Outbacks even before I did :D Could've saved myself a lot of dollars by avoiding that loser GF tho.. :rolleyes:
 

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LOL.. watch out, they'll suck you in. I swear there's more drama than daytime soaps sometimes....


--Josh
I figured that.:mad:

Thanks..:D
 

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My "wheels"

In a particular order...

Ford Cortina '64 Deluxe (110 hp) w. suspension & chassis job
Ford Cortina '67 Deluxe
Ford Cortina '68 GT
Ford Cortina '68 1600 E
Ford Cortina '69 GT (140+ hp) Twin Webers + rods, pistons,flywheel(basically, the works) engine would have been a winner in '69
Ford Fiesta 1988 1.4i
Volvo Amazon '67 (121 in U.S)
VW Passat '99 TDI Syncro
Subaru Outback 2.5i FY MT MY04 (05 U.S)

All Fords were Dagenham cars (British) except the Fiesta that was built in Spain, of all places.
What's with all them Fords and Cortinas? Well, as Tom Robinson put it so well "I wish I had a grey Cortina!" Well I've had one. :)
I was actually more or less brought up in Cortinas as my father had the good taste to drive 'em while I was to young to drive myself. Besides it doesn't take a whole lot of handiwork to make them kind of fast. Fords, at least the British ones used to handle real well and could even if somewhat underpowered be cornered hard enough to lift the inner front wheel when negotiating a tight bend on tarmac.

The Volvo was actually my first car. It handled really well in the winter with a total of 1600 spikes in the winter tires;)

The Passat is/was very sure footed on slippery roads but is no match for any Subaru. What the new 4Motion ones are like I don't know but the concept is basically the same with a front wheel drive car with on-demand 4WD. It's really the actuation that differs, Haldex replacing Visco. Haldex by the way is a Swedish company located in the nice town of Landskrona.

What about the Outback then? I only picked it up this afternoon, trading in the Passat and another VAG car but the kids really like the sun roof (which is std here). I almost wish it was winter:D as it's kind of fun skidding sideways, rear end out and...the pedal to the...
 

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hkan said:
In a particular order...

Ford Cortina '64 Deluxe (110 hp) w. suspension & chassis job
Ford Cortina '67 Deluxe
Ford Cortina '68 GT
Ford Cortina '68 1600 E
Ford Cortina '69 GT (140+ hp) Twin Webers + rods, pistons,flywheel(basically, the works) engine would have been a winner in '69
Ford Fiesta 1988 1.4i
Volvo Amazon '67 (121 in U.S)
VW Passat '99 TDI Syncro
Subaru Outback 2.5i FY MT MY04 (05 U.S)

All Fords were Dagenham cars (British) except the Fiesta that was built in Spain, of all places.
What's with all them Fords and Cortinas? Well, as Tom Robinson put it so well "I wish I had a grey Cortina!" Well I've had one. :)
I was actually more or less brought up in Cortinas as my father had the good taste to drive 'em while I was to young to drive myself. Besides it doesn't take a whole lot of handiwork to make them kind of fast. Fords, at least the British ones used to handle real well and could even if somewhat underpowered be cornered hard enough to lift the inner front wheel when negotiating a tight bend on tarmac.
hkan
Great to see another english ford lover on this site.
Ive had a few in my time myself but I cant seam to be without one for long.Ive had 5 various mk2 mexicos(rally packs in AUS) and RS2000s club cars.still got 1.
 

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Escorts, yummy

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Ive had 5 various mk2 mexicos(rally packs in AUS) and RS2000s club cars.still got 1.
I've on several occasions contemplated buying an Escort, either an early 70's, late 60's or one of the last, an MKII '80. Well, last i.e is last of the rear wheel drive ones. However, I've been fortunate enough to be seated once in the co-drivers seat of a rally prepd. MkI Twin Cam Escort with a top-licensensed driver for a 15 min or so drive on gravel roads.:D To say the least it was exciting.:p I actually got to drive the car in question afterwards but as the driver's seat was in a fixed position...and I was a bit on the short side of things...well it was fun to have done. But it really was out of the question to press things as the driving position was a bit awkward. But still, exciting.
 

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hkan
Sounds very exciting,are they(cortinas,escort,capris) often seen on your side of the world these days,they seem to be making a come back and parts are becoming expensive and hard to come by.
I'd lie if I told you they're a common sight. Though interest seems to be picking up and have done so for a couple of years. Unfortunately, as you mention the price of cars and spares alike seem to be climbing:( here as well. Though I can't really tell what it's like as I'm no longer involved with Cortinas. Being one of the founding members (back in 1985) of our Cortina (Mk1, MkII) owners club I got a bit of an overdose. Later on demands at work had me moving if not house but myself all the time so I decided sell off the remaining two cars. But who knows I might need an Escort someday;)
 

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These are the vehicles I've owned and when I drove them.

1975 Honda CB125S Apr 1978 - Winter 1982
1971 Subaru ff-1 Jul 1978(I was 13-17 )-Spr1982
Dad traded a set of tires for this car then had it fixed up, then I joined the navy.
1974 Honda CL360 Fall 1981 - Spring 1983
1978 Subaru BRAT Nov 1982 - Sep 1987
1983 Honda Nighthawk 650 Jul 1983 - Sep 30, 1990 3:30 pm Ins co. bought it after a 16 yr + 30 day old pulled out in front of me. ps. I'm not bitter at all.
1957 Chevy 1/2 ton big window Jul 1987 - Feb 1989
1987 Chevy Beretta Sep 1987 - Apr 1989
1989 Chevy C1500 LB Std cab w/5.7 and 5spd Apr 1989 - Apr 1992 (LOVED THAT TRUCK!)
1989 Toyota Corolla four door Apr 1992 - Apr 1993 (married, xfer to Hawaii)
1993 Subaru Legacy LS fwd wagon 4eat Apr 1993 - May 1996 (wife had twins, Corolla too small)
1983 Subaru 4wd wagon 4spd dual range Fall 1995 - Summer 1997
1996 Subaru Legacy Outback 2.5L 4eat towing, cold weater and Dad hooked up the other goodies. May 1996 - Sep 2002 (102k) [It is in Connecticut now happy in the snow!]
1978 Subaru BRAT May 1999 - Feb 2002 (Not like I remembered it.)
1990 Subaru Legacy 5spd fwd sedan Sep 2001 - ? (I love this car!)
2002 Subaru OB Sep 2002 - ? ( May I never stray again!)

Well, this is my list, If anybody sees an '71-'72 ff-1 lying alongside of the road, PM me and I'll be right there. can you say "stealth WRX?"
I must confess to my extended OB family. with the needs of my family we traded the 02' OB for a '04 Chevy Colorado crewcab. The OB just didn't have the towing capacity to handle a popup trailer.

Rest assured, the wife and I have vowed to get a new OB in a few years!
 

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j/k....:D
 

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out here, sonoma AZ is the Crystal Capital, mecca for the new agers....kind of hard to see how that relates to overweight road hoggin SUVs tho.

still, all the other mfgrs are scrambling for names for their SUVs...the Armada???! what's next, the Cadillac Conquistador?? the M-B Blitzkrieg??

ahh, the human comedy...
 

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'74 Chevy Cheyenne Super P/U- w/ 454!..not a truck for a teenager! (dad's)
'80 Chevy Silverado P/U- black 4x4 shortbed stepside (mine & dad's)
'78 Ford Mustang Coupe-orange p.o.s. (wife's)
'82 Chevy Camaro Z28- blue..hauled a$$, when not in the shop, wrecked it twice (wife's)
'90 Acura Integra GS coupe- melborn blue..great lil' car, went 128K easy (wife's)
'90 Toyota SR-5 P/U- red 4x4 extended cab..very nice (mine)
---drove 10k in 3 months in the Acura, decided I wanted a bigger travel vehicle---
'97 Ford Explorer XLT- red- great trip vehicle, got tired of $500-$1000 oil changes after 100k (mine)
'02 Subaru Outback Limited Sedan-wintergreen-with Jr. on the way, needed 2 more doors (wife's)
'04 Honda Pilot EX- red-superb trip vehicle (mine)

We really like our Outback, especially in the wintertime here in snowy Rochester. It's a nice size and handles well, and sharp looking. We looked at a Jetta & Passat, Accord, even an Acura TL and Volvo S40, she didn't like 'em. A friend with an Outback wagon suggested she check out an Outback sedan...she was hooked!

This thread is neat to see the Aussie cars listed, too!
 

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I must confess to my extended OB family. with the needs of my family we traded the 02' OB for a '04 Chevy Colorado crewcab. The OB just didn't have the towing capacity to handle a popup trailer.

Rest assured, the wife and I have vowed to get a new OB in a few years!
How could you? :rolleyes: I mean there are more powerful Outbacks.. did you see the Aussie offroad magazine rated the 3.0R great for towing offroad ;) Of course if you want to really tow something heavy you'd be better off with the turbo diesel being secretly developed after being suggested here at subaruoutback.org :D
 

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I worked a couple of summers before I turned 16 and wasted my money on my first auto: a 1975 Plymouth Fury. It was pretty nice for a 16 year old, with the cool rims and duel exhaust with glasspack mufflers. My mom borrowed it one evening and hit a deer and a bank and what ever else got in her way. It was never the same. Since then, I have been lucky to have gone through some better ones than that.

2. 1980? Datsun B210, Fun little car purchase price $180. I blew the engine in the Blue Ridge mountains. Changed the engine and ended up selling it about 8 months later for $250.

3. 1994 Ford Escort; the wife brought this one into the mariage payments included.

4. 1986 1/2 Nissan XE Pickup.

5. 1996 Chevrolet Cavilier 2.4L LS. Not much to say about this one, it served its purpose.

6. 1985? Subaru XT. My first Subaru. I may be wrong on the year and the name here. It was ridden hard before I bought it. It had a oil leak that I could not fix and would leak onto the manifold and stink the thing up pretty bad. It had terrible road manners. This car was in terrible condition. It was fun on trails and back roads in the mountains though. It got me back and forth to class and work.

7. 1991 Eagle Talon TSI Great car. I upgraded the turbo in this thing. Boy it was fast and fun to drive. The transmission went bad and it would have cost more to have it fixed than it was worth.

8. 1998 Dodge Durango. Had this auto about the longest of any other. 70K miles on it when it was traded in.

9. 2000 Mistubishi Eclipse GT. Good little car, not practical for a growing family though. I put about 12K miles on it and traded it in. I was not a big fan of the 4 speed sport shift auto anyway.

10. 2003 Subaru Outback ltd (2.5L engine). My second Subaru. Great auto, but not that fun to drive. It was my wife's main driver before she got pregnant. Ingress and egress were not the easiest with that car. It had the 4EAT. I just did not like that at all.

11. 2003 Nissan Morano. One of the best auto I ever owned. We traded in the 1998 Durango for it. We ended up trading this thing in for another Durango later though. Funny how what comes around goes around.

12. 04 Ford Explorer Sport Trac. Got a great deal on this one. My brother in law is a Ford Employee. Decent auto, just not what I wanted to drive everyday. I accomplished getting rid of some of the negative equity that I have built up over the years with the deal I got on this one. I traded the 03 Outback for it.

13. 04 Dodge Durango (Yeah it's got a Hemi, the wife would not have it anyother way) It is what she wanted. Traded the Morano in for it. She loves it. It will haul the three kids, dog, and anything else you feel the need for. The Hemi is awesome, a bit thirsty though.

14. Finally, 05 Subaru Outback XT. I sold the Ford to my mother in law. This car is by far one of my favorites, even though I have not driven it much to date. I can not wait until it has been broken in. I promised the wife that I would keep this one for a while. I do not think she has anything to worry about though.

Maybe in a few years, I can convince the wife there is a need for me to get a new Pontiac GTO, you know, the one based on the Holden Manaro. I thought really hard about getting one of those instead of the XT. The GTO has no utility and with three kids, utility can be important.
 

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what a long strange trip....

Ooh boy, this is gonna get dangerous.

CURRENT:
02 OBS/Faux Rex
93 Jeep Cherokee....strippo, 4.0 six w/ 5 spd, hauls ass, goes anywhere, refinement and durability of a 10 lb sledge
91 Mazda pickup, coat of many colors, hauls manure well
81 FIAT X1/9...lowered, sometimes runs
79 VW Campmobile (undergoing resto and conversion to 180 hp BMW 2 liter turbo engine)(will it blow flames on downshifts? inquiring minds want to know...)
75 MGB backdated bumpers, lowered + pol;y bushed, webered, makes Jeep look civilized
69 BMW 2002.....my baby... EFI, turbo, 5 spd, Recaros, suspn mods, bone stock outside

bikes: 91 Honda CBR600 crotch rocket...still a jewel
91 BMW R100GS...the 2 wheeled Outback
86 Honda 500 Interceptor
81 Hon CT110
73 Suzuki GT550...vintage racer under constr

FORMER, in reverse chrono order:
95 Legacy L wagon (ex ended up with it)
88 Mazda pickup
90 Mazda pickup
88 Kawasaki Ninja 750...Subs are nice but they can't do 3d gear power wheelies
74 Suzuki GT550
89 Yamaha 600 Radian
81 Yamaha SR250
71 BMW 2002....junkyard didn’t want it, had to cut up and take to dump
68 BMW 2002–watched it get shredded (sob)
66 MG midget, $300, towed home, last straw for that ex....
89 Volvo 240...boooooring, like its owner
93 Ford Bronco II....one of Ford’s engineering studies in developing the rollover capability of its sport utes to its current high level
82 Sub GL wagon, 2WD....my intro to Subs, hated it at 1st, wouldn’t break
79 Chrsler NYer....folks’ castoff
76 Mustang II...2.8 V6, 4 spd, horrid POS (see Bronco II) but actually kinda fun sliding around on bald tires
72 Pontiac wagon...13 mpg and the 4 hour plug change, but snow tires worked surprisingly well in sand dunes....
81 Slaab turbo....power, but not when you want it. Huge disappointment after the 76 02
76 BMW 2002....wish I’d kept it, Delft blue with rare cloth upholstery
72 BMW 2002.....biodegradation study, rust finally got it.
72 MGB/GT.....also woulda been a keeper, if i hadn’t run it into things so much between 16 and 19
76 Pinto wagon..swapped for MG, regretted within a week
71 MGB...intro to Things British and Their Frequent Unexplained Breakage
66 MGB...bought for $50 with rod through side of engine, sold for $800, still lost $ on the deal ( trend which continues to this day...)
74 Dodge pickup...400cid 4bbl, 10 mpg, fun in Fla. monsoons, swapped for 1st MG


do you get the idea i've maybe spent too much on Wheeled Things over the years? my lady jokingly refers to the X as "that Italian ****" due to high maint nature...
 

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"Car design improves rapidly and I can honestly say that there's no way when I've changed cars there hasn't been some destinct advantage or improvement."

in many ways it does...but my 69 2002 gets low-mid 20s mpg city and near-30 hwy, carries 4 good size people and luggage, and cruises happily at 100 mph. and has a cult following to make Subarus jealous. yeah, it's not as passively safe or refined/quiet, but you'd think the basics would have come A LOT further from a 1964 design garage-engineered with a lot of castoff ebay parts...the performance versions they trest in the rags are great but go rent a car and see what most of us REALLY drive. my first drive in a base Fiero resulted in me thinking that my ancient 02 wd whomp on this mid engine pride of GM in either straight line or on curvy road. suspect i'd feel same abt current Cavalier. or a late model 318i for that matter.

(No, i'm not going into a tirade better posted on the BMW 2002 House of Worship site....where i'm going is that my OBS is the 1st car i've driven in a long while that feels like it IS really all that far ahead of the ole bimmer

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