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Apparently I am wrong. For the trims that don't come with the alloy wheel mounted spare, the top tray won't fit if you do get a full spare according to @Carl Abrams

Interesting, I thought only the Onyx XT comes with a full size spare with an alloy wheel.
Im a bit puzzled - everything has stated only the Onyx comes with the full size spare - but yes, all the cars can fit them, but you may have to remove that tray.
 

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duplicate post. it said server error when I posted, so I tried again. Why can't I delete my posts?
 

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Well... I will be back at the dealer next week... I will investigate further then!
 

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Duplicate post also due to server error.
 

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I'm letting my Gen 6 rest today after putting about 1500 miles on it over the past week. Some things I liked (if this was yesterday, it would be what I was doing with my Outback Limited driving home to Atlanta):

  • Drive is really quiet once you reach speed and it's very smooth.
  • Great gas mileage with the 2.5L - Averaging 29.3 mpg over 3 tanks. The first tank was all city driving, one was all highway driving and another was mixed. Impressed with that so far.
  • Acceleration was ok with the 2.5i; actually better than I expected. Interstate entrance ramps weren't an issue. Yes, it tends to groan under acceleration, but I'll take the higher overall gas mileage over the XT.
  • The acceleration with the cruise control after moving lanes to pass a slower vehicle is great when you choose the most aggressive setting. This can't be configured in our 2017 Forester, so I really like it.
  • The whole Start/Stop issue is really a non-issue with me. Save that gasoline. One thing I hate is to be sitting at a light or in traffic with the engine running. The system does a good job of restarting the engine if, for example, the temperature rises in the cabin and the AC is on. There are a lot of inputs it uses to make the decision to stop the engine, and sometimes I couldn't guess why the engine wasn't stopping, though.
  • I really like the infotainment system - it isn't too hard to find what you need after using it a few times. It's great for the Nav, and I can see the XM radio station that's playing at the moment (really important to me, :) )
Some things I don't like:

  • Navigation is not as easy to use as Google Maps through Android Auto. I couldn't get it to do things like "Find the closest Dunkin Donuts". But I used it exclusively on our trip and it's traffic information is up to date, like Google Maps. It found and suggested alternate paths when appropriate and my copilot was checking it's accuracy on her phone with Google Maps. It does a decent job, it's just the searching that I haven't quite mastered yet.
  • There's a bug when I'm connected with Android Auto and a text message comes in; I get an error on the infotainment screen. If I disconnect the USB cable and a message comes in, it works as expected.
  • When you plug in the USB cable to your phone, by default it switches to Android Auto on the infotainment screen. If you're using the built-in Nav, this makes you have to do a couple of screen presses to get back to the Nav. I found the setting to disable switching to Android Auto after a while.
  • Driver seat and mirror settings - you can do this with the buttons on the door for two drivers or you can use the driver monitoring system to store the settings for up to 5 drivers. They aren't synchronized. Plus, if you take your time getting into the vehicle, the scan of the driver will fail and you can either manually rescan or use the buttons.
  • Driver monitor system - it's a work in progress, IMHO. It has a tendency to report false positives if you are taking a drink of coffee. Through my testing, it's looking for your head to drop or move to the right. That would set it off guaranteed. If I looked up or to the left, it didn't complain. If you were driving and nodding off, I think it would definitely catch it, or if you were trying to find a radio station or digging around in the console, too.
I'm sure I forgot some things, and if this doesn't belong here (maybe in a review thread), I'm ok with moving it.

Cheers!
Dave.
Great review. I have had my Touring for 9 days and am gathering my thoughts for a review.
 

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My 2020 Touring w/2.5 came with full size spare.
Full height, or full size?
The chart doesn't show out on here, but the ONLY car that gets a full SIZE spare is the Onyx Edition.
And this is official, right off our internal website of vehicle specifications.

DRIVETRAIN, WHEELS & TIRES Base Premium Limited Touring Onyx Ed XT Limited XT Touring
TEMPORARY SPARE TIRE: T155/80 D17: STEEL RIM STD STD STD STD - STD STD
FULL SIZE SPARE TIRE: 225/60 R18; 18-INCH X 7.0 ALLOY RIM: BLACK FINISH - - - - STD - -
 

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Full height, or full size?
The chart doesn't show out on here, but the ONLY car that gets a full SIZE spare is the Onyx Edition.
And this is official, right off our internal website of vehicle specifications.

DRIVETRAIN, WHEELS & TIRES Base Premium Limited Touring Onyx Ed XT Limited XT Touring
TEMPORARY SPARE TIRE: T155/80 D17: STEEL RIM STD STD STD STD - STD STD
FULL SIZE SPARE TIRE: 225/60 R18; 18-INCH X 7.0 ALLOY RIM: BLACK FINISH - - - - STD - -
Mine is a full height. But it is clearly marked as a temporary tire on the side. It looks like a regular tire but looks a little thinner. I did not take it out so I’m not positive of this. I have the touring XT.


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Mine is a full height. But it is clearly marked as a temporary tire on the side. It looks like a regular tire but looks a little thinner. I did not take it out so I’m not positive of this. I have the touring XT.
NOTE: I may have erred on an earlier posting stating my Touring had a full size spare....like Rsonnes, it is full size; however after a retake, it does state temporary tire on the side. At least it's not one of those ugh donuts!
 

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I drove my Onyx XT to the dentist, to Starbucks, and then back home. Not a huge amount of adventure but the weekend will hold more I’m sure. I’ve had the car for a week and am just enjoying getting used to all the tech features since my old car didn’t have much of that. Some things I like so far:
  • All I have to do is touch the driver’s side door handle to unlock the car (with fob in hand of course).
  • The infotainment system does everything but make my coffee for me - and I’m sure there’s an app out there for that too. It is easy to reach and touch things like the a/c controls and stereo controls. Thankful there’s a dimmer switch on the dash lighting so it doesn’t appear you are driving with a 60” full screen in front of you at night.
  • The ride is car-like, not so much SUV-like. I don’t mind the factory-installed Yokohamas but I’d like something a little more rugged when I do need a new set of tires.
  • Plenty of get up and go in the turbo engine, just a little lag off the line at stop lights but I bought this knowing I wasn’t getting a sports car. Easy to suddenly be doing 10mph over the speed limit without realizing it.
A couple of things I’m still getting used to. . .
  • The stop/start feature on the engine. A bit unnerving when you’ve never driven one (aside from test drives) that has this feature. The slight jolt it makes when restarting was a little unsettling at first but it is a smooth transition to acceleration and I like that it senses the temperatures and restarts on its own if things are too warm, keeping the a/c going.
  • The stares I get when people see the beautiful blue/black look of this Outback. My coworkers are all jealous :)
Here’s what my baby looked like last week when I drove it off the lot. It has sinced rained a bit so I’m not showing you the slightly spotty version it is now. Love this car!!!
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Am I the only one that has started purposefully getting behind cars at stoplights? Before adaptive cruise and Eyesight, I use to choose the lane that would put me first in line. Now, I'm glad when someone pulls in front of me and the car can stop by itself. It makes driving so much more pleasant. It also enhances safety as it is much easier to maintain situational awareness.
 

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Am I the only one that has started purposefully getting behind cars at stoplights? Before adaptive cruise and Eyesight, I use to choose the lane that would put me first in line. Now, I'm glad when someone pulls in front of me and the car can stop by itself. It makes driving so much more pleasant. It also enhances safety as it is much easier to maintain situational awareness.
Nope you're not the only one! Haha I was thinking that this past week. Soon though it may be able to detect stoplights hopefully. Hopefully with this hardware. I wish we had a good roadmap for what Eyesight capabilities are going towards.
 

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I'm letting my Gen 6 rest today after putting about 1500 miles on it over the past week. Some things I liked (if this was yesterday, it would be what I was doing with my Outback Limited driving home to Atlanta):

  • Drive is really quiet once you reach speed and it's very smooth.
  • Great gas mileage with the 2.5L - Averaging 29.3 mpg over 3 tanks. The first tank was all city driving, one was all highway driving and another was mixed. Impressed with that so far.
  • Acceleration was ok with the 2.5i; actually better than I expected. Interstate entrance ramps weren't an issue. Yes, it tends to groan under acceleration, but I'll take the higher overall gas mileage over the XT.
  • The acceleration with the cruise control after moving lanes to pass a slower vehicle is great when you choose the most aggressive setting. This can't be configured in our 2017 Forester, so I really like it.
  • The whole Start/Stop issue is really a non-issue with me. Save that gasoline. One thing I hate is to be sitting at a light or in traffic with the engine running. The system does a good job of restarting the engine if, for example, the temperature rises in the cabin and the AC is on. There are a lot of inputs it uses to make the decision to stop the engine, and sometimes I couldn't guess why the engine wasn't stopping, though.
  • I really like the infotainment system - it isn't too hard to find what you need after using it a few times. It's great for the Nav, and I can see the XM radio station that's playing at the moment (really important to me, :) )
Some things I don't like:

  • Navigation is not as easy to use as Google Maps through Android Auto. I couldn't get it to do things like "Find the closest Dunkin Donuts". But I used it exclusively on our trip and it's traffic information is up to date, like Google Maps. It found and suggested alternate paths when appropriate and my copilot was checking it's accuracy on her phone with Google Maps. It does a decent job, it's just the searching that I haven't quite mastered yet.
  • There's a bug when I'm connected with Android Auto and a text message comes in; I get an error on the infotainment screen. If I disconnect the USB cable and a message comes in, it works as expected.
  • When you plug in the USB cable to your phone, by default it switches to Android Auto on the infotainment screen. If you're using the built-in Nav, this makes you have to do a couple of screen presses to get back to the Nav. I found the setting to disable switching to Android Auto after a while.
  • Driver seat and mirror settings - you can do this with the buttons on the door for two drivers or you can use the driver monitoring system to store the settings for up to 5 drivers. They aren't synchronized. Plus, if you take your time getting into the vehicle, the scan of the driver will fail and you can either manually rescan or use the buttons.
  • Driver monitor system - it's a work in progress, IMHO. It has a tendency to report false positives if you are taking a drink of coffee. Through my testing, it's looking for your head to drop or move to the right. That would set it off guaranteed. If I looked up or to the left, it didn't complain. If you were driving and nodding off, I think it would definitely catch it, or if you were trying to find a radio station or digging around in the console, too.
I'm sure I forgot some things, and if this doesn't belong here (maybe in a review thread), I'm ok with moving it.

Cheers!
Dave.
Great review Dave..thanks...
 

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Test drive a 2020 today, so not mine technically, but still... Also, kudos to all the participants on the forum, the 2 sales guys I’ve been working with asked me where the stop/stop icon was in the HU menu! It was off when I began driving but since I wanted to see what that was like I pulled over and found it thanks to you all. It came on less than half my stops, probably because I ease into the brakes.
 

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I'm letting my Gen 6 rest today after putting about 1500 miles on it over the past week. Some things I liked (if this was yesterday, it would be what I was doing with my Outback Limited driving home to Atlanta):

  • Drive is really quiet once you reach speed and it's very smooth.
  • Great gas mileage with the 2.5L - Averaging 29.3 mpg over 3 tanks. The first tank was all city driving, one was all highway driving and another was mixed. Impressed with that so far.
  • Acceleration was ok with the 2.5i; actually better than I expected. Interstate entrance ramps weren't an issue. Yes, it tends to groan under acceleration, but I'll take the higher overall gas mileage over the XT.
  • The acceleration with the cruise control after moving lanes to pass a slower vehicle is great when you choose the most aggressive setting. This can't be configured in our 2017 Forester, so I really like it.
  • The whole Start/Stop issue is really a non-issue with me. Save that gasoline. One thing I hate is to be sitting at a light or in traffic with the engine running. The system does a good job of restarting the engine if, for example, the temperature rises in the cabin and the AC is on. There are a lot of inputs it uses to make the decision to stop the engine, and sometimes I couldn't guess why the engine wasn't stopping, though.
  • I really like the infotainment system - it isn't too hard to find what you need after using it a few times. It's great for the Nav, and I can see the XM radio station that's playing at the moment (really important to me, :) )
Some things I don't like:

  • Navigation is not as easy to use as Google Maps through Android Auto. I couldn't get it to do things like "Find the closest Dunkin Donuts". But I used it exclusively on our trip and it's traffic information is up to date, like Google Maps. It found and suggested alternate paths when appropriate and my copilot was checking it's accuracy on her phone with Google Maps. It does a decent job, it's just the searching that I haven't quite mastered yet.
  • There's a bug when I'm connected with Android Auto and a text message comes in; I get an error on the infotainment screen. If I disconnect the USB cable and a message comes in, it works as expected.
  • When you plug in the USB cable to your phone, by default it switches to Android Auto on the infotainment screen. If you're using the built-in Nav, this makes you have to do a couple of screen presses to get back to the Nav. I found the setting to disable switching to Android Auto after a while.
  • Driver seat and mirror settings - you can do this with the buttons on the door for two drivers or you can use the driver monitoring system to store the settings for up to 5 drivers. They aren't synchronized. Plus, if you take your time getting into the vehicle, the scan of the driver will fail and you can either manually rescan or use the buttons.
  • Driver monitor system - it's a work in progress, IMHO. It has a tendency to report false positives if you are taking a drink of coffee. Through my testing, it's looking for your head to drop or move to the right. That would set it off guaranteed. If I looked up or to the left, it didn't complain. If you were driving and nodding off, I think it would definitely catch it, or if you were trying to find a radio station or digging around in the console, too.
I'm sure I forgot some things, and if this doesn't belong here (maybe in a review thread), I'm ok with moving it.

Cheers!
Dave.
I just got home from a 450 mile trip in my 2020 Outback base. Here are my perceptions:
Likes: The ride is smooth and quiet.
The fuel economy is pretty good. I averaged over 33 MPG -including some stop and go driving.
The polished/black aluminum wheels on the Base and Premium models is shiny and attractive.
The basic instrumentation (speedometer, tachometer, fuel, coolant temp gauge) is very clear and legible.
The adaptive cruise control does what you would expect and the resume speed function can be set for gradual acceleration instead of an abrupt hard throttle application.
I love the heads up display for the lane departure warning. You can keep your eyes on the road instead of having to look down at the instrument panel to see what the alert is.
Interior is finished nicely, with a lot of soft touch materials
Dislikes:
The Auto Stop/Start is annoying. Not just in traffic, but also when I go to park the vehicle - The engine shuts off immediately when I come to a stop and then when I shift into Park, it restarts 1 second before I switch off the engine. What a STUPID system. Yes I know I can disable the auto start/stop, but I must do that every time I turn the ignition on, and I must go through a menu system to temporarily disable the system. This may cause me to discard this vehicle too quickly.
The black cladding on the front an rear bumpers is too extensive and it looks cheap.
The Base model twin screen infotainment displays require taking your eyes off the road to operate. Real buttons would be better. There is no way to back out of some menus without shutting off the system.
The radio I can ignore, but the climate control settings are too complicated and, again require you to take your eyes off the road. One saving grace: there is a one touch hard button that will turn on the front window defogger at full blast to quickly clear a fogged up windshield.
I find the driver's seat to be uncomfortable for long trips. The Base model does not have a power seat, and there is no lumbar adjustment.
On part of my trip The Yokohama AVID GT tires seemed to cause the Outback wander in my lane even with the auto lane centering engaged. I don't know if it was the road surface or a cross wing that caused this.
 
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