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Been scoping out the site for a while and have read a ton of great info, but I can't tell exactly what of the more "common" issues still exist on the 4th gen. I've read about the steering wheel shake, the hesitations, the cold weather or high altitude starting issues, and a few others.

From what I can tell these things have largely been addressed (I think?) and shouldn't be in the 2013/14 runs, but I don't see a clear thread out that highlights what issues are fully resolved and what may remain.

Can any of you guys help me consolidate any issues with the 4th gen that may still be current and that I would want to be aware of if I were to purchase soon?
 

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My 13 wanders making it the most tiring vehicle to drive that I have ever driven, you will find a thread on here about wandering.
Test drive the actual car you are buying, I found out the hard way that these Subaru's are not all built the same because the one I test drove was great but mine is a piece of ****.
 

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My 2012 3.6 outback is perfect. No problems. Most cars have no real problems, they just don't post much. Best thing you can do is a test drive and pay attention. Don't prejudge based on most of the crazy comments you see on this forum.
 

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Try driving on the highway when it's windy and make sure both hands on the wheel. They have a tendency to get a bit squirrely when the winds catches the Outback.

Also, brake pedal may feel soft.

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I have a 2014 OB and have had it three weeks - I bought it with 224 miles on the odometer and now have 2500miles - I drive A LOT! lol

I did notice a wandering for the first 1000 miles but none since. For me, the Nav works fine and I have used it in St Louis without issues.

Everything works just like it should.....
 

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I had a 2011 3.6 and felt it wandering on the highway...seemed like it had to be corrected all the time. Changed the sway bar and it helped some. I traded on 2014 3.6 with all the same options. It is a totally different car. Doesn,t wander or sway...handles better-just totally improved. Obviously the 2011 was not that bad or I would not have bought the same car. The auto on headlight problem has been replaced. It now has a temperature guage. The dash is nicer in the Limited. The Continental GW tires seem better so far-will say more after winter. I think most things are about right now. Subaru seemed to actually listen to our comments. Try one!
 

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OK, so , where do i begin.....

Urban gas consumption really much higher than expected, 40% more than the official numbers in city only ride.
Low quality of plastics and fabrics compared to the previous generation
body panels seem really thin and fragile
continental tires are not among the best
car has a lot of wind noise on the highway
6 speakers radio system is crap
cannot set the passenger seat up and down
car frame is not very rigid
why is there only a net behind the passenger seat ? why not at the back of the driver seat ?
no rear air-vent on my Tourism pack version
Canada price way, way too high
brakes are spongy
engine sometimes asks for a bit more horsepower :)
Accessories are very expensive and not always nice (winter carpets)
seats are too short for my not so long legs...
silver painted dash parts scratches easily
no one touch powered window on passenger side
Bluetooth is not reliable

and i forget some............

conclusion : the worst car i had in years !!!
really loved my 2006 9-2x...
won't have the money to change before 2015, subaru will have to work very hard to see me again...
Should have done my homework better !!!
 

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I'd drive the car before purchasing and if it feels at all funny just have the dealer check the alignment. I wouldn't say our Outback wanders, but it does follow the road crown more than I'd like. My brother, who has owned four Subies, actually warned me about that as a Subie thing.

The 2013-14 Outbacks do have the FB engines and I keep reading about whether they have an oil burning issue. For me it's just a reminder to check the oil. It's a bit of a change after 20 years of never having added or worried about oil burning, but admittedly, I've also had to add oil to my Honda Fit, which has 45K on it now. In any case, I've only added a 1/4 quart in the first 3,000 miles in the Outback.

Other than that, personally I think the issues have been sorted out. We're very happy with it so far.
 

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I had a 2010 and a 2011. Both had shakes. I drove other 2011 OBs and all did it to some degree. A neighbor friend who works at SOA told me, sort of privately, that their engineers knew about it in pre-production but underestimated how to solve the problem. Everyone at SOA told me "we have done everything we can do" and so they bought the cars back. They were great about it.

However, I missed the Outback. So I researched the 2013 partial re-design and talked to my friend at SOA again. The shake is now resolved, and so I bought a 2013 3.6. My only complaints about the new one are the wandering and maybe the road noise. Also the tech on the phone interface is pretty primitive, insofar as it doesn't integrate with any smartphone. I have to dial by number or manually load contacts. So 2005.

I initially didn't know what people meant by "wandering" and ignored the posts about it. But I noticed at highway speeds that sometimes the new car would try to leave the lane if I took my eyes off the road for even a second. In my case, my tires were quite a bit over-inflated. I adjusted them to the factory specs plus 2 lbs and it's way better.

As for road noise, I think a lot of it is the tires and the fact that they don't do a "luxury car" level of cabin insulation. I like my cars very quiet, so I spent about $130 on a bulk pack of Dynamat Xtreme and spent a couple of hours taking apart the interior and lining the areas that I could reach. Worked great. I'd really like to pick up another box and do the door panels but that's a project for another day.
 

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I agree with most comments above. I had a 2012 which I traded for a 2013 to address the worst problem of the early Gen4's, which was the suspension.

My lane wandering was fixed by having my dealer dial in a little extra toe on the alignment. Still the OB is high profile and lightweight (relatively) so it gets kicked around in crosswinds.

I agree with the poor quality of plastics on the interior, they scratch very easily, my door panels were a mess at the bottom area after only a few hundred miles on the car. Also agree that the exterior body steel is about as thick as tissue paper...I keep my paintless dent removal guy on speed dial. He says he gets a lot of work from OB owners.

The big issues were fixed for 2013....suspension, steering shake. Steering was sort-of fixed in 2011 with updated steering and lower ride height, but some still had problems.
 

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Similar to others.

Lane wandering--mine is not fixed by alignment or tire pressure. lots worse with a wind. Tiring to drive on my 45 minute commute at freeway speeds.

Sheet steel seems thin/cheap.

Lots of flex in things--door panels in interior actually flex visibly when opening or closing doors. Foot rest has give to it--like you're resting your foot on a piece of rubber. My feel and legs are always rubbing stuff under the dash--a cluster of wires or the flimsy plastic of the steering console.

No one touch up and down on passenger side. my 2002 pasaat had that, as does my almost base model 2011 minivan.

Phone tech is as described--sub par.

2013. 7000 miles. I'm 5'9.
 

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No lane wandering on mine...
Defective NAV unit was replaced under warranty last week. Leather seats are "mushy" compared to fabric seats. For some reason they put much higher density foam in 2013 fabric seats. I had a 2013 Outback loaner (while my NAV unit was being replaced) The fabric seats/foam is borderline uncomfortable and I do like firm seats. I think Subaru has to find a happy medium - between the high density foam that they use on leather seats and foam that they us on fabric seats.
Roof rack is flimsy and poorly designed - none of the aftermarket attachments actually fit on side rails since there are none.
Low beam bulb access is bizarre; I haven't seen more complicated design on any cars that I have previously owned.
Rear 19mm sway bar mod took care of the rear suspension - thanks to this forum!
Good access to oil filter on top of the engine.
Adequate a/c and heating although I would have preferred simple knob controls (like on my 2 previous Subarus) instead of the push button switches. I guess the climate control has to have those, rather than knobs. Mileage is disappointing, to say the least. CVT is fine although not yet fully developed (work in progress, I think); I would have preferred the previous AT. Bluetooth works fine. Operating NAV unit is complicated (not user friendly) and major distraction; regardless if the car is in motion or stationary. Subaru should "chuck" Fujitsu and go back to TomTom or, better yet, to Garmin. Other than that, at current 8000 miles, I can't think of anything else. I am sure I have missed something though...
 

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The only thing I would add is I've had problems with an underhood squeak caused by loose idler pulleys, which I hear is semi-common. Didn't really affect any performance, just a pain.

I also find it wicked annoying that I can't sync my phone contacts because I have an iPhone...but Siri and I cope.
 

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My only complaint is the body panels are made of soda cans. I've never had a car that dents so **** easy. Oh well it's an outback!

LOL really Dam-n is a censored word. LOL
 

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You **** betcha **** is a censored word. Any **** fool knows better than to use the word "****" on this forum.
 

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As a first time owner of a Subaru, I have no model on which to judge improvement. I'm fairly focused when driving, so lane wandering is not an issue. I have at times taken my hands off the steering for testing and the car rolls straight. I have run 3013 miles at roughly 80/20 highway/city and it has averaged 28.34 mpg. The only minor complaint is the cold startup rpm of 1800 - -WOW --that's loud and the time it takes to worm up. I have a Honda Element with 146000 miles ( Really good car) that starts out at 1800 rpm, but warms up twice as fast, but it's average mileage at roughly 70/30 hwy/city is 22.54. Road noise is more than acceptable, as any of you who have driven a Honda Element can attest. In life there are trade offs and compromises and the Outback IMO is an excellent most satisfying example.:D
 

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Leather seats are "mushy" compared to fabric seats. For some reason they put much higher density foam in 2013 fabric seats. I had a 2013 Outback loaner (while my NAV unit was being replaced) The fabric seats/foam is borderline uncomfortable and I do like firm seats. I think Subaru has to find a happy medium - between the high density foam that they use on leather seats and foam that they us on fabric seats.
That's funny...I felt it was the other way around; the leather seats felt firmer to me. Maybe it's in the eye of the beholder. In any case, for us getting the Premium over the base was worth it for the lumbar support.
 

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