[dwg51357]

Ready to do first oil change on my 2018 Outback 2.5 and want to put on a Fumoto valve. Which model do you all recommend?

 

[lavarock]

I would recommend the EZ drain valve. I prefer the O-Ring seal vs the fabric gasket the Fumoto valve uses.

 

[AbsoluteZero]

Your best bet is check out the manufacturer's website for vehicle application. I recall fumoto's side is Fumoto® USA | Quick and Easy Engine Oil Drain Valves. Don't recall EZ's. I'm using fumoto on 2 of my 3 vehicles and have an EZ ready to install on a 3rd at next oil change. I bought the EZ valve because at the time I was "shopping" it was a few dollars less than the fumoto. @lavarock is correct the EZ valve uses an o-ring seal. However I have had no leak problems to date. On the Subaru I have a short piece of tubing stashed by the battery that's useful in directing the drained oil into the catch pan.

 

[DAG]

I just did an oil change at 1000 miles on my 2018 2.5 and used an F108 Fumoto valve. Tough getting out the drain plug since it's painted inside and outside after it's installed at the "factory" and the plug has short shoulders that love to round off, even with a 6 point socket. Mine started to round off with a Craftsman 14mm 6 point socket and I changed to a Snap-On socket which fit much better and got the job done. Don't bother with the fiber washer that comes with the valve. Use a crush washer with a bit of gasket maker sealant on the valve and you can tighten and clock it to where you want it. There is also not much room to swing a 19mm open end wrench to turn it so a claw foot would be much easier. And one more thing. Don't forget to check that the valve is actually closed before you pour in your 5.1 quarts of full synth oil....

 

[lavarock]

If having to clock the valve check out the new SX series of Fumoto valves. They also are using O-rings for the seal.

On my 2012 3.6R clocking the valve was not necessary.

F108SX: New Generation Valve with 16mm-1.5 Threads

 

[Tishers]

Don't forget to check that the valve is actually closed before you pour in your 5.1 quarts of full synth oil....

I have made mistakes like that before! I forgot to put the oil filter back on.

 

[Trip Enroute]

Just installed Fumoto F108N

Fumoto F108N (long nipple). No worry about the nipple being too long on the 2018 2.5.
Note: The drain plug is really hard to crack loose the first time.

Check out my post #22 on this topic...

http://www.subaruoutback.org/forums/138-gen-5-2015-present/472889-2017-ob-2-5-oil-change-fumoto-valve.html

 

[Teamsloan]

The F108SX is what I just installed. Super easy, uses O-ring instead of fiber washer, and although I don’t NEED to worry about which way it’s pointing it’s really nice to point it exactly where I want it to tuck it out of the way as much as possible.

After being sent the wrong sized crush washer with my last oil filter I was done with the washer and bolt. I’m looking forward to my next oil change. Now if only I could figure out how to remove the oil filter without touching the exhaust and dumping oil all over my hand.


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[johnre]

Now if only I could figure out how to remove the oil filter without touching the exhaust and dumping oil all over my hand.

Here's what I do:

1. Wait 20-30 minutes after stopping to let the exhaust cool a bit. Just in case you do touch it.
2. Use a filter removal tool to break the old filter loose - but just far enough to allow hand turning, not enough to open the seal from the gasket. A long reach socket extension is a help here to reach in.
3. Position catch pan.
4. Carefully reach in with one hand, and give the filter a good spin quickly - a couple of turns - so the gasket has a gap but the filter doesn't fall off. Then pull your hand quickly away and let it drain well. If done quickly enough, your hand will be out of there before the oil can run down the side.
5. After a few minutes, remove the filter all the way. It will still have some oil in it, so turn it upside down above the drain pan and let this drain again.

 

[p12]

I have some info for people who are riding the fence as to install or not.

I just called Subaru Of America and my local dealer, this is what I got:

S.O.A. If any aftermarket part that is not partnered with Subaru is installed then it could potentially be an issue in relation to a warranty claim. There is no data on their end for this item.

Local Service dept has some customers that have them installed and they don't discourage it, however, if there is any engine problem relating to lubrication it has the potential of being an issue for warranty. Why ? Because they (S>O>A) can claim it leaked or something similar and since it is not an approved Subaru part.....

Yes, I know the chances of this happening are very low, but what if....???


I have one installed but am thinking about putting the original plug back on because my engine has developed a "tick" that is bugging the He++ out of me and I don't want them to look for any excuse to refuse my help.


I'm curious what y'all think about it ?

 

[Rub]

I have some info for people who are riding the fence as to install or not.

I just called Subaru Of America and my local dealer, this is what I got:

S.O.A. If any aftermarket part that is not partnered with Subaru is installed then it could potentially be an issue in relation to a warranty claim. There is no data on their end for this item.

Local Service dept has some customers that have them installed and they don't discourage it, however, if there is any engine problem relating to lubrication it has the potential of being an issue for warranty. Why ? Because they can claim it leaked or something similar.

Yes, I know the chances of this happening are very low, but what if....???


I have one installed but am thinking about putting the original plug back on because my engine has developed a "tick" that is bugging the He++ out of me and I don't want them to look for any excuse to refuse my help.


I'm curious what y'all think about it ?

I'm not a doctor but in my internet medical opinion, you worry way too much.


I will patiently ask what the nexus is between an engine tick (assuming you have true one and not just the sounds the Boxer engine normally makes) and the drain plug?


To deny a warranty claim there must be a causative connection between the problem and the mod. There's none with the plug. It's a plug that has no personality or function other opening and closing every 6k miles.


I installed my Fumoto using the factory crush washer, torqued to 30 lbs. It's been on for nearly 44k miles, not a drip has leaked and the lift lever has never moved. I use the plastic clip and that's always in the same nested place.



The valve is solid and it will not cause a warranty issue.


As far as the warranty thing, here's a little quandry for SOA. On my 2016 LED lights for the overhead map lights weren't an option but they currently are. I replaced my bulbs with the ones I belive are on the new cars. Have I created a warranty concern or the possibility of one? Remember, the wiring is the same for all models and the LED lighting is an option aka plug and play.


Being concerned about warranty issues over a mod is normal but it has to be rationaly related. The plug is in no way related to a tick.

 

[p12]

I'm not a doctor but in my internet medical opinion, you worry way too much.


I will patiently ask what the nexus is between an engine tick (assuming you have true one and not just the sounds the Boxer engine normally makes) and the drain plug?


To deny a warranty claim there must be a causative connection between the problem and the mod. There's none with the plug. It's a plug that has no personality or function other opening and closing every 6k miles.


I installed my Fumoto using the factory crush washer, torqued to 30 lbs. It's been on for nearly 44k miles, not a drip has leaked and the lift lever has never moved. I use the plastic clip and that's always in the same nested place.



The valve is solid and it will not cause a warranty issue.


As far as the warranty thing, here's a little quandry for SOA. On my 2016 LED lights for the overhead map lights weren't an option but they currently are. I replaced my bulbs with the ones I belive are on the new cars. Have I created a warranty concern or the possibility of one? Remember, the wiring is the same for all models and the LED lighting is an option aka plug and play.


Being concerned about warranty issues over a mod is normal but it has to be rationaly related. The plug is in no way related to a tick.

Thanks for the great reply, I needed to hear that. :smile2:

 

[unc22x]

Does anyone know what Fumoto valve to get for a 2019 3.6 Touring? Furthermore, any website? All I see on the Fumotot website is suggested dealers. Live in Minnesota... Thanks so much.

 

[SGsynthetic]

Does anyone know what Fumoto valve to get for a 2019 3.6 Touring? Furthermore, any website? All I see on the Fumotot website is suggested dealers. Live in Minnesota... Thanks so much.

F105 is the model for the 3.6.
You can get it at Amazon, super easy: Fumoto F105
If you want to connect a hose, get the model with the nipple fitting, F105N.

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