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Both of my rear passenger windows are frozen shut! 17 degrees is just not that cold! It's not as if it had rained and then frozen. Anyone else with this problem? (front windows are fine).

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Mine worked fine in -22 this morning. You must have had some moisture in there.

However, I do think the motors on these windows are pretty lame. They slow down big time in cold weather.
 

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Better watch out. PT in VT will be back on the window frame soap box again. In this case, though, I'd tend to agree with him; there's definitely an interior moisture issue in the Outback in general, and some of it may be due to leakage.
 

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I was carting around some soggy umbrellas for a bit (although they have been out for a few days). Thanks for the response.
 

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Mudge said:
Better watch out. PT in VT will be back on the window frame soap box again. In this case, though, I'd tend to agree with him; there's definitely an interior moisture issue in the Outback in general, and some of it may be due to leakage.
Funny you should mention that. As we've had +/- single digit temps in Vermont the last couple days, despite my automatic starter warming up the car: even though the DOORS have no freezing/opening/closing issues, my WINDOWS have been crazy stuck. Even opening/closing/slamming the doors and pounding on the windows doesn't seem to jar them free.

I don't know the history of my car - anything could have happened to it in it's first 30K miles, so anything's possible... but the car is so **** clean and trouble-free otherwise I too have to wonder what's the deal here :)

-Peter
(one month of factory warranty left and wondering if this is worth a dealer visit)
 

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Strange, I don't have any problems like that with my 98, in the same weather (5 degrees at startup yesterday). I was driving yesterday morning with the driver's window open a few inches so my breath wouldn't fog the windshield.

OTOH my digital camera was crapping out big time in those temps when I was in Detroit.
 

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The other thing that's a little odd is that the "sticking point" is where the window meets the door, not along the top window seal (i.e. it is still stuck even with the door open). I'm also puzzled why the front windows seem fine. Are the motors for the front stronger, or is there a more complex explanation?
 

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Those strips are called "felts" on some cars.

One wild suggestion, maybe try some of that silicone dry spray lube on the bottom inch of the glass. Or maybe Rain-X..
 

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careful with lube on the window. until you've seen the interior of the track assy and know it won't mess anything up, i wouldn't. sometimes friction between guide rollers and glass is impt for it to work right; not sure if this is true with Sub.s.

yeah, i'd definitely take in for warr work as this ain't normal. when you try to open em, does the motor just stop due to freezing , or do you hear it continuing to run but no window movement?
 

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cptoversteer --

I'm not sure if the 2nd half of your response was intended for me or Peter. That said . . .

When I hit the passenger window switch, you can see the window shift down a few millimeters and then stop. I didn't want to damage the motor, so I didn't sit on the switch to see what would happen. Does that tell you anything?
 

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sorry, you're right, i was talking to PT on that part.

on yr windows, yeah. seems like yr freezing problem is further down in door; if window was frozen to felt strip, it shouldn't move even a few mil. how old is your car? is it possible that it isn't just frozen, but that cold "precipitated" some other problem?
 

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cptoversteer said:
careful with lube on the window.
Oh, come on! A good coating of bearing grease will solve everything AND keep theives from seeing any valuables in the car!
 

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prolly make frost on the windshield in mornings slide right off too....:D
 
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