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Are Wix filters still as good as they used to be? I found a local supplier and they are very reasonably priced!

What about crush washers? I haven't been able to find them anywhere else but the dealer.

Looking around now, last filter I bought doubled in price at the dealer and to make it better the crush washer isn't included. Cost close to $18 for filter/washer.
 

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Wix - Yes.
For OEM filters you can get them online, amazon, get a case, etc.
Washers - get OEM online or from the dealer.

The crush washers are pointless to replace and easily last over 100,000 miles.

my point is, don't swap a lifetime part for a questionable aftermarket or let it deter you if you don't have one some day or loose it in the middle of an oil change.

I've seen new aftermarkets leak a good bit. I've had people ignore me - install an aftermarket washer or drain plug with washer - and then have it leak.

One of the most technically versed and experienced Subaru specialists in the country recommends WIX, I prefer to take nods from people like him:

Higher quality filters that have better filtration and better flow (the Subaru Of America [blue] OE filter is abysmal as are Toyota OE filters) do not need a high DP to force oil through a crappy element.

Additionally, the design of the bypass valve has the oil first washing over the filter element. For this reason we recommend WIX filters as they have an "up front" bypass design that does not have unfiltered oil washing over a dirty element before being bypassed. We also use the Amsoil filters - they do not develop high DP (synthetic element, 15,000 mile filter) so do not need the high DP bypass valve. They have 15 psi valves. The WIX are stock psi but a much better design and a better filtration element.
All that being said - filter choice is basically benign. Don't be dumb, change oil on time and these make 200,000 miles regardless of oil/filter choices.
 

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dorman (?) has some 20mm crush washers - I think I got a box of 10 from amazon last time.

without getting into the whole bypass valve issue, I think wix is a good product, pretty sure they also supply the NAPA store-brand too.
 

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Good to hear Wix hasn't yet cut corners (that we know of).

The crush washers are pointless to replace and easily last over 100,000 miles.

All that being said - filter choice is basically benign. Don't be dumb, change oil on time and these make 200,000 miles regardless of oil/filter choices.
I've debated reusing the old washer, could be an option.
Need not worry, I do OCI's like clockwork!

dorman (?) has some 20mm crush washers - I think I got a box of 10 from amazon last time.

without getting into the whole bypass valve issue, I think wix is a good product, pretty sure they also supply the NAPA store-brand too.
I looked at Amazon. Problem is I'm in Canada and get royally screwed. I found a box of washers for 12.99 on .com site, redirects me to .ca and wants me to pay $82.99 for the exact same product (I kid you not!).

They still do make Napa filters. I looked at Napa and their gold filter is 2.5 times the price I found for the Wix brand (wholesaler vs retailer pricing and whatnot is the reason).

Subaru Parts direct has your oil filter for about $5.00 and they also have the crush washers.
Thanks but same as above: factor in exchange rate, shipping, tarriffs and it gets dumbly priced.
 

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I just ordered/received Wix/Napa Gold oil filters for my 2012 EJ25 from FleetFilter.com.
Wix#57712/Napa Gold#7712. These also have the correct bypass pressure. Paid $4.55 ea. Best price I was able to find FWIW
I personally don't need crush washers due to using a Fumoto Valve.
 

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check ebay for 20mm crush washers - $5 - $10 for 10pk, they seem to be a popular size, listed for some Honda and Toyota models, etc. (watch out units from shipping from Hong Kong)

you could 'survey' 3-4 filter brands available to you, then research at www.bobistheoilguy.com or elsewhere if they have decent reviews.

for the record, I now use crush washers twice, I flip them over. Never had a leak. I have read of plenty of people that get dozens of uses from one washer.
 

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One word - Fumoto.
OE Subaru filter 6-packs cheap on Amazon or the 'bay.
 

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I have read of plenty of people that get dozens of uses from one washer.
like i said i do 100,000+ miles over and over so that's a couple dozen uses from one washer. and i see other people doing it too (friends, family - most average DIY people changing their oil that never open an owners manual or play online don't know to even do it).

So it's not even possible, it's normal and done all the time, giving vast amounts of quantitative feedback that unabused Subaru washers are reusable.

Some day maybe i'll migrate one of my 200,000+ mile washers to a newer Subaru and see how many miles I can get out of one just for kicks. Haha.
 
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