interested in the same tired for my "16 outback. What tires have you had on your car so far? I'm using Michelin T+H for summer and X-ice for winter, in the rainy seattle weather and Mt. snow on weekends. Debating on the CrossClimate when both above wear out. Thoughts?
Thanks!

 

They've been available in Europe for quite a long time, and I have Crossclimate+ on my OB.

Not tried them in snow yet, but they are very quiet compared to the OE Yoko's that were on the car, and I have no complaints so far.

They were one of first of the new breed of 'all season' tyres that work well in everything from dry to wet to snow, and have the snowflake mark that some countries require for winter use. They aren't supposed to be as good in the snow as a full on dedicated snow tyre, but are way way better than a summer only tyre.

There's a lot or European reviews available:

https://www.evo.co.uk/features/15600/michelin-cross-climate-vs-winter-and-all-season-tyres

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/acces...s.co.uk/accessories-tyres/93108/all-season-tyre-goodyear-vector-4-seasons-gen-2

 

@bobboing:

Still have the stock Bridgestone's on this one .... Just as good as using a #2 pencil eraser on the pavement.... My 2011 has Continental pro contacts that are holding up really well

@randonusername:

Thank you for information on these. I hope that they can perform as well as advertised, given the price they Michelin is asking.

 

Money spent on the best tires will be forgotten soon. Cheap tires you'll always remember their faults.

 

Agreed !! I never skimp out on tires or brakes, just that these are more $ than the others I have been looking into

 

Over here they aren't that much more expensive than regular summer tyres - Michelins tend to be at the more expensive end of the market, but they are in the same ballpark as the other premium brands...

I've had them on mine for 5ish K miles now with no complaints, they are very quiet, seem to be wearing well (no visible wear). I missed the snowy season but all of the reviews say that they do much better than a summer tyre. If you live in Tahoe or the mountains of Colorado and spend 4 months a year navigating snowdrifts and unploughed roads, you are probably better off with a dedicated set of winters, but for 'occasional' snow and bad weather they are a lot more convenient than a second set of wheels...

 

I was really thinking about these tires when I was first starting to build my new wheel/tire set.. I love the tread design and they have really good reviews. I really like how they are OE tires for some of the Mercedes-Benz GLE across the pond. I opted for the a/t geolandars instead for what I needed, but I would definitely get these tires for highway use. I vote yes, buy!

 

How are the Geolandars holding up for you?

 

@randomusername is right about the Michelin Cross Climate all weather tyre already having a track record overseas.
All weather tyres seem to finally be getting some attention in the States. Michelin just started adding SKUs for that model 3-4 months ago for the U.S. market. That's good news for some.
All weather tyres are in the gap between all season and winter tires.

You can find reviews easier by using the Euro spelling of "TYRES" when you search. Use "quotes" to force spelling

 

Um, does the size chart on that Tirerack page list anything in Gen5 Outback size? HPH

 

Not the the regular CrossClimate+, but they have both stock sizes of 225/65/17 and 225/60/18 in the Crossover/SUV version called the CrossClimate SUV.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=CrossClimate+SUV

 

I'm considering the CrossClimate SUV tires. I'm not sure the CC+ come in the '18's size.
I heard they are quiet. I heard they have a rumble. Can't be louder than my OEM tires

 

I have CrossClimate tires on my '16 Forester. Compared to the previous set of Michelin Premier A/S, they handle about as well but get 5-10% worse gas mileage. They are slightly noisier, have a different sound on some road surfaces. The Premiers only lasted 38k miles and I expect that the CrossClimates will be slightly worse, based on published tests, reviews, and the "treadwear warranty" offered on the tires.

 

Thanks for the feedback. I like Michelins. I always put them on the wife's cars. I get a sense that even though they look cool, the CrossClimates may not be a good value for the OB

 

Recently purchased Michelin Cross Climate tires for my 2015 OutBack. They replaced a set of Premier LTX and I have now driven them in dry, wet and snowy/slushy conditions and they are great. They grab the road well, don’t hydroplane in heavy downpours and seem just fine in slippery conditions. They also ride quietly and track well. Just need to see how they will do in winter weather in New England. Going to hold off putting dedicated snow tires on the car to see how they do.

Update: Used them all winter. Never did change over to my dedicated snow tires They were just fine in New England ski country both on backroads and main roads.

 

Just put a set on at 42,000 miles. The original Bridgestone Dueller tires still had about 5,000 miles left, but were riding very stiff and were making so much noise, I wasn't sure if it was the tires or a wheel bearing.

Switching to the Michelin CrossClimate SUV tires made the biggest positive difference I've ever experienced when changing brands.

They are quieter (by an amazing amount), smoother, better road feel, and steering wheel feedback (such as it is with our Outbacks). Before, if I was a bit enthusiastic with a local sweeping off ramp, it felt like one would expect Now, the car takes its set, then goes about its business without any needed mid-turn corrections, etc. Even noticed a tick better fuel economy. No snow here in Atlanta, but lots of rain. Very happy with the decision. Still a funky tread pattern though...

 

I agree the Cross Climates are just fantastic. I put a set on my wife's Audi about a year and a half ago and have been amazed at how good they ride, how good they handle in good weather and rain, and especially how good of a snow tire they are. Consumers Reports said that Michelin has finally cracked the code on how to make a true year round tire.

Also, I just put a set of them on my 2016 Outback 3.6R and went bigger with the P245/60/R18 tires. They really fill up the wheel wells and don't rub at all. To make sure I turned lock to lock over and over and across large bumps and going forward and backward, and they're good to go. Great tires, and a better look to boot!

 

That's a beautiful photo. Very flattering to the Outback!

 

Thank you - Good lighting helps... as the grey tends to hid the curves and angles.

 

Great Photos! Is that Magnetic Grey or another brighter silver?

 

Thank you! It's Magnetite Grey Metallic... in decent afternoon light. Polishing and wax is on my to-do list for it, and expect the color to get a little darker/richer. It's waaay overdue, unfortunately.

 

I never really liked the Bridgestone Duellers... switched to Michelin Premier A/S tires and found the car performed much better in wet weather situations... didn’t pay attention to road noise or gas mileage tho.

 

I have Michelin Premier tires on my Lexus GS400 and have been pleased with them as well. Everyone has their favorite brands, and I've gone through Continental, BF. Goodrich, Yokohama, Pirelli and even Mickey Thomson tires, and don't have anything bad to say about any of them, but more times than not I prefer Michelin - depending on the application of course. More times than not, they have been worth the premium.

 

 

How do you think they will do soft roading, fire trails?

 

The tread is actually fairly aggressive so I'm sure they'd do great. I noted that someone complain that they looked like 'tractor tires', which was bizarre to me as I like tractor tires! Seriously though, they look great, and despite looking fairly aggressive they ride ultra smooth and quiet, amazing actually.

 

In Europe the CrossClimate SUV is marketed as being appropriate for light off-roading but the SUV version is different than the regular CrossClimate+ or CrossClimate2. The SUV version has more reinforcement including the sidewalls.

If your off-roading doesn't involve airing down it's probably fine but all-terrain tires are designed to be able to be used aired down when appropriate and I don't think that these are.

 

Although I'm not in the market for new tires soon I am window shopping
The CrossClimate SUV is a interesting tread design and is lighter than the Wildpeak AT Trail which I have also been eyeing
Then you have the CrossClimate SUV which is a Crossover/SUV Touring All-Season tire vs the Wildpeak AT Trail which is a On-/Off-Road All-Terrain tire
And of course you have the price
Decisions decisions decisions

 

I've got a 2018 Outback limited and it is getting due for a set of tires. Factory tires have 47K miles on them and living in northern MN, I will definitely need something for snow traction when winter rears it's ugly head again.

It's my wife's vehicle and it gets driven on our yearly 'snowbirds to the south' trip so road noise is another concern. One another Subie we had the change in tires had an almost unbearable road noise problem. Think they were Goodyears.

I've been researching various options and the Michelin CrossClimate 2 seems to be a favorable tire. Has anyone been using these? Reviews say they are great in snow. Did they change your mileage any? Reading through reviews, which are mostly very good, there have been a couple of people saying that their mileage dropped by 10%. Granted, these are not from Subaru owners though.

TIA

 

The CC2 is very popular up here in Winnipeg. Haven't heard any complaints on mileage/noise, but this is something Michelin has been focusing on with their newest tires the last number of years, even in dedicated winter tires. In the all-weather tire class, you'd be hard-pressed to do better than the Michelin.

 

been a few videos online reviewing them- regardless of what the ratings say there still seems to be some noise associated with them. was interested in them as well till i read some reviews mentioning noise.

 

Does anyone have experience with this tire? I can get 4 mounted and balanced at Costco for $661.

 

Hi Doug. Did you end up getting the crossclimate2 at Costco and is this what you paid? I'm seeing the CC2 for ~$200 everywhere (225/60R18) Thanks.

 

2021 with new Enkei PX10 / Crossclimate2 setup

I just got my 2021 Limited and I had to get some black wheels and new tires to match the black bumpers I added and the soon to be wrapped chrome. After reading many reviews I decided this set up should be good for my mostly on road 4 season driving. The Enkei (17x7.5” 40 offset) wheels are...

www.subaruoutback.org

2016 Subaru Outback needs new tires - Northeast US

Greetings. I am looking for new tire recommendations on my 2016 Subaru Outback. Tire size is 225/60r18 Low noise, high performance in wet weather and snow. Any other considerations? Thank you.

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Pretty much everyone who has used them loves them, but they're not designed for off-road air-down situations like all-terrain tires that have some tread on the sidewalls.

 

As likewise researching tires for both my OB and son's girlfriend's Forester, there are these sources that are interesting to help

2020 Tyre Reviews All Season Tyre Test - Tyre Reviews and Tests

With the promise of one tyre to work in all conditions, all season tyres are a rapidly growing market segment. To find out which of these all season tyres is best, and whether they can match a ...

www.tyrereviews.com

=> granted this is Euro-centric and some of their tyres are not available here in States, but still IMHO some quite good comparisons / evaluations
=> and his video here too:

=> this is maybe not a unbiased review, however it is somewhat educational and informative