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Repair for P1710 and hard shifts 5EAT

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#1 ·
I have a 2008 legacy GT. It was having random very hard shifts and random P1710 fault code. 99.9% of the time it drove smoothly. I noticed that these faults occurred under hard acceleration or on inclines.
Research led me to " turbine speed 2 sensor ", this being a Hall effect transducer which incorporates a transistor sensor component. Often when transistors begin to fail it is heat related, so I reduced the oil level and found that there were no more fault codes but I still had the odd random shift. Which confirmed the sensor was overheating from the oil.

Subaru's fix for this known problem is to replace the valve body with an upgraded version.


I then removed the valve body, detached the sensor, fitted a generic 1/2" Hall effect [$55] sensor in exactly the same position and height to the valve body. I solder joined the pwr/grd/ signal wires to the harness.


To date after 9 weeks, the car drives like new, no hard shifts no fault codes.
 

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#12 ·
Hello everyone,
I recently went through this frustration with my granddaughter's 2008 Legacy GT. I paid over $200 to get a sensor overnight out of Canada.
As a result of that experience I decided to make the sensor available here in the US at reasonable price. You can get it with or without the filter. I'm new here so I can't post links so you'll have to search the Ebay items manually.
With filter. Item # 133239156024
Without filter. Item# 133200929693
 
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I have a 2008 legacy GT. It was having random very hard shifts and random P1710 fault code. 99.9% of the time it drove smoothly. I noticed that these faults occurred under hard acceleration or on inclines. Research led me to " turbine speed 2 sensor ", this being a Hall effect transducer which incorporates a transistor sensor component. Often when transistors begin to fail it is heat related, so I reduced the oil level and found that there were no more fault codes but I still had the odd random shift. Which confirmed the sensor was overheating from the oil. Subaru's fix for this known problem is to replace the valve body with an upgraded version. I then removed the valve body, detached the sensor, fitted a generic 1/2" Hall effect [$55] sensor in exactly the same position and height to the valve body. I solder joined the pwr/grd/ signal wires to the harness. To date after 9 weeks, the car drives like new, no hard shifts no fault codes.
‼‼‼ where can i find this part please any info on where u got it and this u put new trans fluid or same one ‼‼‼
 
#22 ·
I ordered another sensor with the correct color wires just to be safe and after it arrived (3 weeks), I got the code again and took it to the dealership with the new sensor showing them the codes and giving them the sensor to replace. They approved my warranty repair, but said they don't replace just the sensor only the entire valve body. So now my car has been at the dealership since June 29th and I've been given 3 loaners: a 2023 crostrek, the blue 2023 outback wilderness (absolutely loved it!!!) and now I have a 2024 base model outback. Good news is the repair is free (get the aftermarket extended warranty) but now I have an $80 sensor I no longer need. Also, I still don't have my car back...
 
#26 ·
So I just had a shop replace the sensor on my 2014 outback and he cannot get the tranny to reset. He says once you drain all the fluid out of the tranny, it has to "relearn" everything. What is up with that??? He wants to blame the after market sensor. I am already going to be into this guy for about a grand and climbing.
 
#27 ·
If you drain and fill the trans fluid a relearn is NOT required.

If you replace the valve body the service manual advises to do a transmission relearn BUT there are several forum members that have replaced the valve body themselves and not done a relearn and there were no problems.

Sounds like the shop do not know what they are doing.

Seagrass
 
#28 ·
As stated by @seagrass, a TCU relearn should not be required for an oil change.

If they have attempted a relearn and it didn’t work, that suggests there is something wrong somewhere. Either they are not doing the relearn process properly (car on jack stands etc) or the process is bombing out because something is not quite right in the tranny.
 
#29 ·
So how complex is this "relearn" process? And I asked him to get the aftermarket sensor and he did the best he could to reconnect but the wire colors are not the same and none of the wires in the sensor indicated ground, power, or signal. He simply went by the order they came out of the sensor and matched it to the original sensor color order.

And thanks to you both seagrass and rimwall for your replies. This is going to be a very expensive learning for me and I am too old to be learning new crap.
 
#30 ·
The relearn on the 5EAT is very easy.

Get all four wheels of the vehicle off the ground.

Connect service tool to OBD2 port and select transmission relearn.

Follow instructions on the screen. Basically start engine, wait for transmission to be at correct temp, hold foot on brake and select gears as advised by service tool. When process completes (about 5 mins) Turn off engine, lower vehicle and test drive.

Sounds like the sensor may be wired wrong. If they use a multi meter on the old sensor they will be able to identify which wires feed the coil and which is ground etc. if they then check the new sensor they will be able to determine which wires perform the same functions. This should not be a complex process for a workshop.

Seagrass
 
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