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2020 Outback-Yokohama tires!!

7.7K views 17 replies 13 participants last post by  ArF193  
#1 ·
My wife parked the OB on the side yard yesterday cause I needed to leave soon after her arrival home.
When I walked around the front of he OB, the wheels were turned to the L somewhat and I could see the tire treads. I was shocked at the little tread. The OB has right at 17000 on it and Im wondering if the tires will work good in the coming snow. Have to go to my tire shop and get em measured ad ll look for that 'wear bar' if such a thing is still on tires.

Anyone else wondering about Yokohamas?? They sure aint Michelins. I try hard to keep em inflated at the recommended range.
 
#6 ·
I used my latest recorded tread depth determined by my dealer. I used the recorded measurement of 8/32" (10/32" original depth less 2/32" wearbar limit) to determine the useful tread on new tires. My wear rate is 4,652 miles per 1/32" of wear which gives me an estimated 37,216 miles of useful life on these tires. I under stand the measurements were recorded in large 1/32" increments and therefore subject to some error so rounded the mileage down to 4K miles per 1/32" of wear which gave a possible wear mileage of 32,000 miles. Using the 4Kmi-1/32" base and increasing the minimum allowed wear to 3/32" I expect a very conservative 28,000 miles from my tires .So, take your pick of the three estimates.

Like RocketMan20 I keep my tire pressures adjusted/monitored. I use an electronic pressure gauge that has a resolution of 0.1psi. I measure and adjust the pressure within 30 minutes following sunrise for consistency and to be somewhat assured the pressures always stay above recommendations. The pressures are set to 36.5\34.5 psi. I expect this procedure should keep the minimum pressures above the recommended numbers.

This effort has caused me to think about possible uneven wear due to overpressure of my tires. If I can find my depth micrometer I will start looking at center versus edge tire wear in more detail.
 
#8 ·
I am invoking all disclaimers because I purchased the lowest priced gauge that appeared to meet my needs and was offered on Amazon. In 2020 I paid total of $6.28 with tax, now it is $7.97+Tax. Upon receipt I compared readings to a pencil gauge that I could read to increments of ½°F. This gauge was once calibrated to a source traceable, maybe 3 levels away, to a NIST standard. I also compared it to the car's TPMS readings. I determined it was good enough for my tires. I find the tire stem sometime difficult to mate with the gauge and it is easy to lose a small amount of air when attaching. I also find it is difficult to seal to the tire stem connection when filling with N2. I think the OEM tire stems have a little smaller diameter than I have on my other vehicle because the Subaru is the only one having these problems with gauges I have used on many cars.

EPAuto Digital Tire Pressure Gauge, 150 PSI link
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#12 ·
EPAuto Digital Tire Pressure Gauge, 150 PSI link
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I have a gauge that looks very similar. I bought it because the display showed tenths of a pound, but the tenths digit only flips between .0 and .5, when set to PSI, so it only reads out to the nearest half-pound.

The specs for the gauge you linked to on Amazon also had the disclaimer: "Minimum Increment: 0.5 PSI ", so I suspect its the same as my gauge and only reads to the nearest half-pound also.

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#9 ·
Our 2021 OB Touring has the Yokohama Avid GTs on it (from the factory). I have not tried these tires in the snow - - we no longer live in snow country. We did use our 2011 OB (it has Michelin Defenders on it) and for an all-season tire, they were great; no problem even in deep snow. As for tread depth, the rule of thumb for driving in snow with any tire is 6/32" minimum.

Steve
 
#10 ·
This is what I use. The flexible hose connection makes it easy to get good seal with the tire's Shraeder valve and have good position to read gage. Rubber outer protective boot. Digital readout in 0.1 psi gradations. Comparing to local Discount Tire's gauge, and car's TPMS, appears accurate with repeatable readings. Handy bleed-off button, but contrary to instructions, it appears that you have to hit "on" button once to reset reading after bleeding air down slightly; that is, it doesn't seem to give continuous real-time readout after a bleed.

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#11 ·
mine became junk at about 20K for snow use. change them and you ll be surprised how much better ride and traction you can get. Did not like the OEM tire.
Then to confirm my view, I had a 2022 Outback as a loaner for 4000 miles. I could immediately feel the lack of grip with OEM tires. Got mine back and was happier with a good replacement quality tire. If you drive in lots of snow like I do go for the change early and enjoy the car.
 
#15 ·
Returning to the topic of the OE Yoko Avid GT tires--

THE UTQG grade embossed on the tire is 400 BA. This is a mediocre rating.

The 400 is a grade assigned by the manufacturer that reflects relative treadwear expectation compared to other tires it makes. 400 is not a very high score. See comparison below. Getting even 30k miles out of a set should probably be considered a victory.

The "B" is the traction grade which is assigned on the basis of an actual objective test. Why a B traction grade tire would be the OE for a vehicle designed and marketed for its traction capabilities is a mystery to me. (Well, actually not a complete mystery. The tire is light, to promote better vehicle mpg rating; and soft and quiet, to promote pleasant test drive experiences).

As a comparison, Yokohama makes a Avid Ascend GT, which despite the similar name, is a completely different tire. It has a UTQG of 740 AA. It gets very good test scores from Tire Rack and Consumer Reports.