Fot two years now I am driving on Vredestein Quatrac Pro in the low Alps and love it... on Outback and XV/Crosstrek. CC2 do not have following here at all.

 

I am also in Massachusetts, but I don't drive much in the snow. That factored in my decision to not buy the cc2's. I spoke to an expert at Tire Rack who recommended Pirelli AS+3....I went with these on my 2022 MDX and I absolutely love them. I have no issue with the stock Yokohama tires, but when it's time for new ones, Pirelli AS+3 will be my choice.
The guy at tire rack told me that the cc2's are the best all season tires for snow, but the Pirelli s provide a more comfortable ride on dry or wet surfaces. They have not disappointed.

 

Michelin CC2 is great tires, but it is overrated for the price. I personally recommend Nokian WR G4. If you looking for cheaper one, Milestar Weatherguard AW365 is the choice.

 

Was always happy with Michelin defender. I put a set of Goodyear weather ready on our crosstrek. Very happy with them.

 

My $0.02.

Falken Wildpeak AT Trails are a forum favourite. More of a snow capable (snowflake rated) highway friendly AT tire. But not much different from your Yokos and while I was a fan when I first got them I have soured on them. Awesome when new...the first 10,000km and first winter were amazing, although the snow grip was no better than a good highway all season like the Defender 2. The Falkens get loud as they wear, and they wear faster than they should. Won't buy them again.

I can't get behind the CC2 for some reason. Heard a lot of good things, but also a lot of bad things.

Also heard great things about the Firestone Weathergrip line, and I have driven a Nissan Altima with them on it. Quiet on dry and great in snow.

My daughter's car has the Goodyear Weatherready...a 6 year old design that is still excellent. I will likely put these or the new Bridgestone WeatherPeak or Firestone Weathergrip on my car before next winter, as the Falkens will be down to 5/32" most likely and that is not usable in winter IMO.

 

I can't get behind the CC2 for some reason. Heard a lot of good things, but also a lot of bad things.

What bad things have you heard?

 

I just got a new Onyx XT OBW and I’m going to sell the OE Yokohama Avid GTs. Those of you with all-weather tires year-round, I’d love to hear your experiences and recommendations. I think I’m going to wind up with the Michelin CrossClimate2’s but I’m open to other options: Bridgestone WeatherPeak? Vredestein Quadtrac Pro?

I live in suburban Massachusetts and drive less than 10,000 miles a year. I had dedicated winter tires for my Crosstrek, but I’m done with changing over twice a year.

And to those of you that have sold your OE tires—how much trouble did you have selling them?

Thanks so much!

Just curious, why don't you like the stock tires? I find them to be quite adequate...

 

Fair question. The reviews on TireRack of the stock tires are pretty bad. Looks like very few people would buy them again (3.1./10), and in particular, the winter/snow traction is rated poorly (4.4/10). I'm a believer in the softer compound (most importantly, for braking; I'm not trying to get good lap times ), so I'm looking for something that's better than the OE. Just want to be prepared for the unpredictability of New England winters.

 

When I talked to the guys at Tire Rack, I told them that I was primarily interested in safety and comfort. I dont drive much in the snow and I dont drive like I am in the Indy 500. They were quite pointed that the cc2's were the best all weather "snow" tire, but would not provide the most comfortable ride on dry and wet pavement. I asked about the Michelin Touring series, but was told that they are intended for a smaller car than my MDX. Ultimately he suggested the Pirelli's which is what I went with. The difference between them and the stock MDX tires (Bridgestone) was like night and day....far quieter and very comfortable while providing a terrific grip on the road.
For now, the Outback tires are fine for me, but when I replace them, I will again go with the Pirelli's.

 

When I talked to the guys at Tire Rack, I told them that I was primarily interested in safety and comfort. I dont drive much in the snow and I dont drive like I am in the Indy 500. They were quite pointed that the cc2's were the best all weather "snow" tire, but would not provide the most comfortable ride on dry and wet pavement. I asked about the Michelin Touring series, but was told that they are intended for a smaller car than my MDX. Ultimately he suggested the Pirelli's which is what I went with. The difference between them and the stock MDX tires (Bridgestone) was like night and day....far quieter and very comfortable while providing a terrific grip on the road.
For now, the Outback tires are fine for me, but when I replace them, I will again go with the Pirelli's.

I had the Pirelli Verde All Season Plus on my Cayenne S. Great tire in everything but ice. Just be diligent on rotation & balance. I bought the road hazard warranty through DT and asked them to balance them at each rotation.

 

Having had Subaru's since 1997 and upgrading to other than OEM tires since 2002, the CC2's are the best all rounder that I've ever used.

I went with a 235/60/18 since it was available as a V rated tire and I prefer a stiffer sidewall. It is also an XL tire. After I switched to summer tires on the FXT, I ran the Nokian WRG3 in winter and eventually went with Michelin X- Ice Xi3's for winter. The CC2's are not a true winter tire but they are pretty darn close. The biggest difference is sudden acceleration and panic stops in the slick stuff. That's where a true winter tire shines.

But the CC2's having gotten me through a very icy commute when there was a massive pile-up on the highway not too far from where I live as well as some nasty storms a couple of months ago when there were several tornados nearby. They did get a bit noisier after putting about 30k on them, but the pros far outweigh this con IMO. I've been lazy and still have the Avid GT's sitting in my garage. Anyone need some Avid GT's with 15k miles on them? 😁

 

I've found the reviews done by this guy/channel to be quite helpful. I just replaced my nearly new Yokohamas with the CC2s, and really enjoy them thus far.

 

I just got a new Onyx XT OBW and I’m going to sell the OE Yokohama Avid GTs. Those of you with all-weather tires year-round, I’d love to hear your experiences and recommendations. I think I’m going to wind up with the Michelin CrossClimate2’s but I’m open to other options: Bridgestone WeatherPeak? Vredestein Quadtrac Pro?

I live in suburban Massachusetts and drive less than 10,000 miles a year. I had dedicated winter tires for my Crosstrek, but I’m done with changing over twice a year.

And to those of you that have sold your OE tires—how much trouble did you have selling them?

Thanks so much!

I bought a set of the Cross Climate 2 tires and I couldn't be happier! They handle great in heavy rain and are surprisingly quiet at highway speeds! Can't recommend more!

 

We have the CC2's on both Subaru's and our Son has them on his Jetta. No regrets and would buy again in a heartbeat.

 

A question to anyone: Would you like to have a full size spare wheel in your car which you can use any time of the year front and back, left or right?

If the answer is yes, then get nondirectional set of tires (and the fifth wheel) in the trunk and relax.
Vredestein Quatrac Pro allows you to do that. Michelin CC2 does not.

 

A question to anyone: Would you like to have a full size spare wheel in your car which you can use any time of the year front and back, left or right?

If the answer is yes, then get nondirectional set of tires (and the fifth wheel) in the trunk and relax.
Vredestein Quatrac Pro allows you to do that. Michelin CC2 does not.

Bridgestone WeatherPeak is another nondirectional that's seems to be as good as the CC2. Not finding too many legit reviews online since it's fairly new.

ETA: WeatherPeak not WinterPeak, sorry

 

Winterpeak is not sold on the European market. Unknown tire.

 

I live in Minnesota and am also looking for all weather tires. I've read some good reviews on ones already mentioned, CC2, Vredestein. Another one that has piqued my curiosity is the Cooper Endeavor Plus. The reviews are pretty good, 65k warranty, and reasonable price. Does anyone have any experience with Cooper Endeavor Plus?

 

Just put those on my wife's 2015 Rogue. They will be the 3-season tires as we have Continental VikingContact7 for her winters. For the Coopers, the ride is great so far. We will not have much to report in the snow, but the TireRack reviews are very positive overall on that tire. As you said, price is great too. They are just not technically snow/winter rated (no 3-peak mountain symbol) which is why I didn't consider them for my car this time around.

Going with the Vredestein Quatrac Pro for my OBW (Danke schön, Giorgio!). Thanks so much all for the input; it's been a lot of fun reading all the responses, and being a part of the group!

 

Oh yes, you will need it.... Must do a 5 tire rotation so all 5 tires have fairly even wear. Otherwise you can not put it when you need it. Our drive system needs even wear.

 

Sure, it's bad for the system to run mismatched tires for a long time. But putting on a mismatched spare in order to get to someplace where you can replace the tire is fine. If it wasn't Subaru wouldn't put donuts in their vehicles.

And maybe I drive on better roads than y'all, but I can't recall having to use a spare in at least the last decade. So I'm not going to worry about rotating it in just because I have a full size.

I've had great luck with various Michelin tires on my cars and motorcycles over the years. Currently running the CC2s on my Outback, and am extremely happy with the wet grip and quietness. As some have noted, there is a noticeable increase in rolling resistance (causing a 2-3 MPG drop in my case), but for me that's a trade-off I'm willing to make.

I don't recall having a mileage drop when I put them on my CRV but I only had them a few months before I traded it in for the Outback.

 

I've had great luck with various Michelin tires on my cars and motorcycles over the years. Currently running the CC2s on my Outback, and am extremely happy with the wet grip and quietness. As some have noted, there is a noticeable increase in rolling resistance (causing a 2-3 MPG drop in my case), but for me that's a trade-off I'm willing to make.

 

Got the Vredesteins on yesterday—thanks so much again for all the discussion.

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@IAmTheStig a personal review may be in order. It would be very helpful for forum members when they are making a purchase decision. It would be much appreciated.