[mcbrew]

Yes, out 30-year-old Scamp had some gel cost cracks, but these do not indicate any structural issues, nor do they pose any kind of leaking risk. Having said that, the Scamp was way too small for us. I loved the idea of it, but two adults and two kids just don't fit too well in a 13 foot camper. The interior length is closer to 9 feet, and that includes a bed in the back and a seat in the front. I tank the actual floor space is about 6 square feet. Our popup has an 8 foot box, but it is wider and taller than the Scamp, and also does not include either bed.

Even in its old age, the Scamp still looked pretty good going down the road.

 

[movemaine]

A scamp might work. I'm thinking get the biggest camper the Sub will support, and then some people can sleep in a tent outside.

 

[subiesailor]

Make it a road trip
Cricket Trailer 2012

 

[movemaine]

Make it a road trip
Cricket Trailer 2012

I think the cricket is very interesting...not sure that the wife would be on board.

 

[shad6]

Running List of smaller/lighter trailers that include a bathroom/shower:
( I will edit & add as I find potential matches)

Viking Epic popup
Viking - Coachmen RV
Dry Weight: 2,175 lbs
Tongue weight: 214 lbs

Lil' Snoozy
Small Travel Trailer: Camper: Smoakin Concepts Composites
Dry weight: 1900 lbs
Tongue weight: 200 lbs (estimated, I will inquire to specifics)

Egg Camper (website is terrible; little information)
LIGHTWEIGHT FIBERGLASS TRAVEL TRAILER
Dry weight: 2000 lbs
Tongue weight: 200 lbs(estimated)

T@B
T@B Teardrop Trailers
Dry weight: 1600 lbs
Tongue weight: 165 lbs

Casita trailers:
http://www.casitatraveltrailers.com/index.html
Dry weight: 2185 lbs
Tongue weight: 225 lbs

ParkLiner
ParkLiner Fiberglass Ultralight Travel Trailers - ? Take me somewhere fun! ?
Dry weight: 2100 lbs
Tongue weight: 220 lbs

Scamp
RV Trailers - Easy Tow Lightweight RV Campers - Scamp Trailers
Dry weight: 2000 lbs
Tongue weight: 165 lbs

ProLite (16')
Evasion 16 camper technical features and equipement : Roulottes Prolite
Dry weight: 1890 lbs
Tongue weight: 165 lbs

Taylor Coach (large, lightweight trailers - 19'+ under specs.)
Taylor Coach - Welcome
21' foot model
Dry weight: 1950 lbs
Tongue weight: 195 lbs

Westland
http://www.westlandrv.ca/9.0W-Westland.html
Dry weight: 2062 lbs
Tongue weight: unknown

Interesting... A year to date; I am now doing this research too! Thanks!

1. Scamp 13’
Brand: Scamp
Model: 13 Foot
Info: This appears to be our top choice because the trailer is lightweight and has a toilet option.
Style: Fiberglass “Egg” Frame.
Dry Weight: 1,350 lb.
Tongue Weight: 160+ lb.
Cost: $10,000+
Features: Custom Built in Minnesota. Toilet/Shower Option Available.
Additional Notes: Primitive Door Lock. Must travel to MN to pick up. Two months to build. A 16 foot version is also available, but it is heavier.
Website: Lightweight Travel Trailers & Small Campers - Scamp Trailers


2. Trillium – The Outback
Brand: Trillium
Model: The Outback
Info: This camper is also very lightweight. It has several floor options and one includes a toilet.
Style: Fiberglass
Dry Weight: 1,395 lb.
Tongue Weight: Not Listed
Cost: $15,000+
Features: Toilet Option.
Additional Notes: Canada
Website: Compact lightweight fiberglass Outback travel trailers Calgary | Trillium Trailers


3. Chalet XL 1930
Brand: Chalet
Model: Chalet XL 1930
Info: The Chalet brand has numerous trailers to choose from. This model includes an optional toilet.
Style: A Frame
Dry Weight: 1,995 lb.
Tongue Weight: 225 lb.
Cost:
Features: Toilet option.
Additional Notes: Visit their website. They have quite a few travel trailers and pop ups. Heavy tongue weight.
Website: Folding Trailers | Travel Trailers | Truck Campers : Chalet RV


4. Aliner Expedition or Aliner Ranger 15
Brand: Aliner
Model: Expedition and/or Ranger 15
Info: This company has eight nice looking A Frame trailers. Two of which include toilets.
Style: A Frame
Dry Weight: 1,800 lb.
Tongue Weight: 220-240 lb.
Cost:
Features: Toilet. Cassette Toilet.
Additional Notes: Tongue weight may need to be reduced.
Website: Campers - Aliner


5. T@b Max-S or T@b Basic-CS-S
Brand: T@b
Model: Max-S and/or Basic-CS-S
Info: Intriguingly charming campers. Unique designs and models to chose from.
Style: Tear Drop
Dry Weight: 1,670-1,800 lb.
Tongue Weight: 155-165 lb.
Cost: $19,000
Features: These models have toilets. Some models have outdoor kitchens. Unique color options.
Additional Notes: Bed may take up most of the entire interior space. Expensive.
Website: T@B Teardrop Trailers


6. Jay Co 12B
Brand: Jay Co
Model: 12B
Info: Jay Co has numerous models of trailers to choose from.
Style: A Frame
Dry Weight: 1,625 lb.
Tongue Weight: 230 lb.
Cost:
Features: Toilet/shower.
Additional Notes: Slightly heavy tongue weight.
Website: Jayco, Inc.



7. Safari Alto
Brand: Safari
Model: Alto
Info: An incredible (and expensive) trailer design.
Style: Tear Drop
Dry Weight: 1,700 lb.
Tongue Weight:
Cost: $25,000
Features: A tear drop trailer thats roof expands upward while camping.
Additional Notes: Also, has toilet option. Incredibly expensive.
Website: Alto Travel trailers by Safari Condo


8. Casita Patriot
Brand: Casita
Model: Patriot
Info: Very similar to the Scamp.
Style: Fiberglass
Dry Weight: 1,880 lb.
Tongue Weight: 245 lb.
Cost:
Features: Toilet option available.
Additional Notes: Would prefer lighter dry weight and definitely tongue weight. Made in Texas.
Website: Casita Travel Trailers - America's favorite customer driven; lightweight travel trailer


9. Escape
Brand: Escape
Model: Escape
Info: 17 foot
Style: Fiberglass
Dry Weight: 1,750 lb.
Tongue Weight: 250 lb.
Cost: $16,000
Features: Smallest available size is 17’. They used to have smaller option.
Additional Notes: Would prefer smaller and lighter.
Website: Escape Trailer Industries ? Chilliwack, British Columbia


10. R Pad – RP 171
Brand: R Pad
Model: RP-171
Info: A very nice normal style trailer.
Style: Trailer
Dry Weight: 2,205 lb.
Tongue Weight: 225 lb.
Cost:
Features: Toilet and shower available.
Additional Notes: Seems that it may catch too much wind. On the heavy side. Very helpful youtube videos can be found on this brand.
Website: Forest River Inc., A Berkshire Hathaway Company | RVs, Park Models Trailers, Commercial Buses, Commercial Trailers, Pontoons


11. Comet Hardside H1235
Brand: Star Craft
Model: Comet Hardside H1235
Info:
Style: A Frame
Dry Weight: 1,915 lb.
Tongue Weight: 235 lb.
Cost:
Features: Toilet option.
Additional Notes: Nice A Frame camper. Slightly heavy on the tongue weight.
Website: Starcraft RV


12. Comet 1221
Brand: Star Craft
Model: Comet 1221
Info:
Style: Pop up Camper
Dry Weight: 1,840 lb.
Tongue Weight: 270 lb.
Cost:
Features: Toilet option.
Additional Notes: Heavy tongue weight.
Website: Starcraft RV

13. Star Flyer 10
Brand: Star Craft
Model: Star Flyer 10
Info: Light weight pop up tent camper.
Style: Pop Up Camper
Dry Weight: 1,325 lb.
Tongue Weight: 140 lb.
Cost:
Features: No Toilet
Additional Notes:
Website: Starcraft RV


14. Aliner Classic
Brand: Aliner
Model: Classic
Info:
Style: A Frame
Dry Weight: 1,530 lb.
Tongue Weight: 190 lb.
Cost:
Features: No Toilet
Additional Notes:
Website: Campers - Aliner


15. Jay Co Sport 8SD / 10SD / 12UD
Brand: Jay Co
Model: Sport 8SD or Sport 10SD or Sport 12UD
Info:
Style: Pop Up Camper
Dry Weight: 1,200 – 1,600 lb.
Tongue Weight: 165 – 210 lb.
Cost:
Features: No Toilet.
Additional Notes:
Website: Jayco, Inc.


16. Flagstaff T12BH
Brand: Forest River
Model: Flagstaff T12BH
Info:
Style: A Frame
Dry Weight: 1,950 lb.
Tongue Weight: 268 lb.
Cost:
Features: No Toilet.
Additional Notes: Heavy tongue weight.
Website: Forest River Inc., A Berkshire Hathaway Company | RVs, Park Models Trailers, Commercial Buses, Commercial Trailers, Pontoons


17. Livin Lite - XLP
Brand: Livin Lite
Model: XLP
Info: Aluminum and lightweight.
Style: Pop Up Tent
Dry Weight: 1,500 lb.
Tongue Weight: 250 lb.
Cost:
Features: Cassette Toilet available.
Additional Notes: The tongue weight to this model is too heavy.
Website: https://www.livinlite.com/



18. QuickSilver 6.0 / 8.0 / 10.0
Brand: Livin Lite
Model: Quick Silver 6.0 or 8.0 or 10.0
Info: Aluminum and lightweight.
Style: Pop Up Tent.
Dry Weight: 630 – 1,050 lb.
Tongue Weight: 75 – 135 lb.
Cost:
Features: No toilet.
Additional Notes:
Website: https://www.livinlite.com/

 

[jogosub]

Decisions, decisions, decisions... my suggestion (if this is your first one): get your first one used - any off your list that suits your needs and valet. Use it for a couple of seasons and then either sell it or get another one that fits your needs better. No matter what research you will do, the best "research" is your personal experience with it....

 

[KansasMatthew]

Here's one - if it's good enough for a '74 1.6 Super Beetle, it's good enough for a new OB:


1974 Volkswagen Beetle & Camper - road test: http://youtu.be/56XL0TysIn0

 

[jogosub]

Here's one - if it's good enough for a '74 1.6 Super Beetle, it's good enough for a new OB:


1974 Volkswagen Beetle & Camper - road test: http://youtu.be/56XL0TysIn0

Cool!

I wonder what is the tongue weight...LOL

It appears that they've invented the "5th Wheel", right?......

 

[KansasMatthew]

Here's another one:

Bizarre Camping Trailer - Have you ever seen anything like this?: http://youtu.be/Rv3rLu4th4c

Gotta love the quick getaway!

 

[movemaine]

So I ended up buying a 2010 r-pod 173.

Specs and everything here: 2010 R-Pod M-173 Standard Equipment, Prices & Specs - NADAguides

2000lbs
184lbs hitch weight
full bathroom
2 full sleeping areas

I ended up looking at popups, vintage campers, t@b, Aliners and none of them were quite right for 2 adults, child and a small dog.

I'm installing my brake controller and should be picking it up later this week.

I'll let everyone know how it goes.

 

[subiesailor]

So I ended up buying a 2010 r-pod 173.

Specs and everything here: 2010 R-Pod M-173 Standard Equipment, Prices & Specs - NADAguides

2000lbs
184lbs hitch weight
full bathroom
2 full sleeping areas

I ended up looking at popups, vintage campers, t@b, Aliners and none of them were quite right for 2 adults, child and a small dog.

I'm installing my brake controller and should be picking it up later this week.

I'll let everyone know how it goes.

I like the R-pod but having towed a bunch and packed for family of 4 I know that you will be looking for a midsized suv or pickup very soon. I know two families with the R-pod they use a Land Cruiser and a Nissan 4dr Frontier and both vehicles are in the 5000lbs towing capacity and work a bit hard towing the R-pod. Memorial day weekend we were packed heavy with our 900lb empty trailer + lots of gear and its about as heavy as the OB suspension would tolerate regarding dips on the freeway etc.

Good luck but be ready to go shopping for a heavier vehicle.

 

[movemaine]

I like the R-pod but having towed a bunch and packed for family of 4 I know that you will be looking for a midsized suv or pickup very soon. I know two families with the R-pod they use a Land Cruiser and a Nissan 4dr Frontier and both vehicles are in the 5000lbs towing capacity and work a bit hard towing the R-pod. Memorial day weekend we were packed heavy with our 900lb empty trailer + lots of gear and its about as heavy as the OB suspension would tolerate regarding dips on the freeway etc.

Good luck but be ready to go shopping for a heavier vehicle.

Good points. I realize I will need to keep the pack weight down, not carry water in the holding tank, and pack forward of the OB rear axle or towards the rear of the pod. If it becomes an issue, I may look at a weight distribution hitch.

 

[subiesailor]

Good points. I realize I will need to keep the pack weight down, not carry water in the holding tank, and pack forward of the OB rear axle or towards the rear of the pod. If it becomes an issue, I may look at a weight distribution hitch.

The subaru unibody isnt built in any way to do a distribution hitch. Just the reality of the situation. I really like the R-pods great value for a pretty good design. I've contemplated if getting one would fit our interests. I would haul it with our 4.7L V8 Sequoia. But so far the smaller 4x6 tent /camping rig Subaru combo works better for the more remote places we go with very tight parking etc. Waiting to see if Nissan brings a 4-5 star rated 4dr diesel Frontier. Which case to keep our foot print small and fuel bill reasonable I can see us moving to a popup camper on a modern 4dr midsized pickup and dragging the little 4x6 trailer along for gear space and kid housing when they get older.

 

[movemaine]

The subaru unibody isnt built in any way to do a distribution hitch. Just the reality of the situation. I really like the R-pods great value for a pretty good design. I've contemplated if getting one would fit our interests. I would haul it with our 4.7L V8 Sequoia. But so far the smaller 4x6 tent /camping rig Subaru combo works better for the more remote places we go with very tight parking etc. Waiting to see if Nissan brings a 4-5 star rated 4dr diesel Frontier. Which case to keep our foot print small and fuel bill reasonable I can see us moving to a popup camper on a modern 4dr midsized pickup and dragging the little 4x6 trailer along for gear space and kid housing when they get older.

Yeah, I'm still waiting for the small diesel SUV. Hopefully the chicken tax gets repealed or reworked at some point.

Chicken tax - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[subiesailor]

Yeah, I'm still waiting for the small diesel SUV. Hopefully the chicken tax gets repealed or reworked at some point.

Chicken tax - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I only see that happening if mileage and lighter duty better built passenger safety rated truck out sell the 1500 full size rigs. Given Ford, GM and Dodge would lobby to keep the chicken tax to avoid having their bread and butter high profit full size truck market fragmented.

Regarding mileage the Subaru will probably run around 15-16mpg towing the R-pod. My 4.7L Sequoia does about 16-17mpg towing a similar sized trailer. The only way I can see bumping towed mileage is going 3L or 2.8L modern Diesel engine. Then we are probably looking at 18-21mpg in a typical average. But non towing high 20's vs say my 16-18mpg non towing averages with the Sequoia etc.

 

[movemaine]

Picked up the r-pod today. It towed really well.
It was located an hour from me, through winding & hilly roads full of potholes (standard Maine road). The grades were short, but there were climbs and the Sub felt fine.

I'll report back after a longer trip.

Nice & level:

 

[jogosub]

Looks good!
For my liking, I personally don't like the large "footprint" being towed behind a car. For that reason, I like my A-Liner Ranger 10 (sleeps 3); i.e.less wind resistance and a better MPG that anything that's higher that Subaru's roof. Some of the freeways out West can have quite heavy head winds.
I use my camper just for sleeping; otherwise I am always outside - for that purpose and for my type of camping, the pop-up is the best!

 

[subiesailor]

R-pod out side kitchen is by far my top like.

 

[jogosub]

I have a small portable microwave, propane stove and top rated portable Lotus Grill with Teppanyaki plate... Lotus Grill: the best invention for outdoor cooking IMO!

Amazon.com: lotusgrill


http://www.lotusgrilluk.com/index.php?page=products&cat=accessories&selected=LGR-TP-AL-290_V0001

 

[movemaine]

I have a small portable microwave, propane stove and top rated portable Lotus Grill with Teppanyaki plate... Lotus Grill: the best invention for outdoor cooking IMO!

Amazon.com: lotusgrill

That looks interesting. I am planning on pulling the stovetop out of the pod, because I really don't want to cook and build up heat in the camper. I've been looking for something that's quick & easy for grilling.

For my liking, I personally don't like the large "footprint" being towed behind a car. For that reason, I like my A-Liner Ranger 10 (sleeps 3); i.e.less wind resistance and a better MPG that anything that's higher that Subaru's roof. Some of the freeways out West can have quite heavy head winds.

We looked at an Aliner as well, and found one for about $1,000 more than we bought the r-pod for, but it was about 2200lbs and the hitch weight was higher. Also, we're camping with a kid & a dog - the little bit of extra space felt 'right'. That said, I was originally looking at a 1960's Scotty Hilander, but the wife didn't want a project right now.