the front struts don’t use spacers, only the rear on that kit, and those aren’t how it’s lifted, that’s for the rear drive to be better aligned. Lift is in the design of the shocks/struts.
Go to 6:08 and they show a side x side comparison of the struts. The lower spring perch is higher up on the strut body and the shaft is longer on the TerraSport.
Dears, I have answer from Bilstein Germany commercial department about the new B8 Terrasport for the Outback B6, they confirmed me that will be launched worldwide in january but they don't have acces to the references yet. They told me that if we can get the references maybe they can get technical info trough the system. Anyone knows the references?
1,729 from Rallitek. Not bad. Only 200 more from the B6 setup that I got. I think I would of went with the b8 setup. Guess I will just get it for the ascent when the stock suspension sucks.
So if one were to be looking at ordering these shocks for their gen 5 Outback is there a specification of what kit they would need for the rear subframe spacers? I don't see one listed anywhere and with the "1-2 inches of lift" statement I am not sure of what size spacer is needed.
In response to my earlier question above regarding subframe spacers for the gen 5 Outback, here is the reply from Bilstein:
"Thank you for contacting Bilstein.
All of our lifting shocks are engineered to lift your vehicle up to a safe point before you start to experience compromised suspension and/ or driveline geometry. Our products are intended to be stand-alone lift kits and to not require any additional components to correct drive line angles or properly align the vehicle etc. Therefore, no spacers are necessary for use with these dampers. Thank you."
They have arrived and I am looking forward to putting them onl
Cheers! and yes, I‘ve been keeping an eye out for these, current ETA is like Dec-24? I’m also hoping there’s details about lift both front and rear. From what I’ve read about the Gen 4 and 5 and SH foz, rear could be .25 to .5” less than the front, unlike the crosstrek stating both 1.5” front and rear. It will definitely be on the shortlist if it’s available in the next few months and F+R are the same lift.
I upgraded my Gen 4 with the 1.5 lift B8s via Rallitek. I like the stance, I have 235/75/15s on Method 502 wheels, and the ride on road and off is really comfortable.
It didn’t require the sub-frame spacers, but I’ve since swapped the springs on the rear to the overload springs, so I added the spacers. I’ve got a rig’d tire carrier and often a ikamper x-cover Rtt that was causing some serious sag.
I was able to do this myself (except alignment) in my driveway with hand tools and a battery powered impact wrench. I had the Makita ratchet wrench but the direction switch snapped off on TWO OF THEM. Any suggestions for a better electric ratchet?
I notice in the description for this kit it notes "keeps factory on road ride quality" and you also state its comfy on and offroad. It's it really "factory" level of ride quality in your opinion? Or is it more just comfortable considering it's meant for offroading?
I might just try a set with stock springs, their little website explanation says they were designed for oem springs 🤷♂️. I know that there are wide enough parameters that many springs will also work fine, but maybe this way it achieves a nice on/off road balance🤔. Local dealer has stock springs for about 70$ a corner and a full set of B8 from tire rack is $560 free shipping. New mounts and other bits could come in sub $1k.🤞
OB1 pic, the overall lift of my 2014 OB riding on 225/65R17 Falken Wildpeak A/T Trail tires. Initial thoughts, I really like the firmness of the Bilstein TerraSport B8s paired with the Rallitek Overload Springs; this suspension pairing has completely eliminated body roll while cornering and the road feedback is sharp!
OB2 pic, as you can see, the 1.5" lift shifts the geometry of the rear wheel forward in the rear wheel well (the stock suspension is naturally biased to the front of the wheel well, but this bias is exacerbated with the 1.5” lift); I think if I was running 225/60R17s I would not have any rubbing. I attempted to install Bilstein 1" rear subframe spacers supplied by Rallitek to re-center the rear wheel geometry, but I found out during the install that the factory main rear subframe bolts are not long enough with the 1” Bilstein spacers. If anyone decides to re-center the rear wheel geometry I highly recommend ordering the longer bolts so you’re not having to do this step twice. Longer rear subframe bolts from Rallitek are due to arrive this Thursday. I’ll install and take some new pictures to show how re-centered the rear wheels are once the spacers are installed.
OB3 pic, the red "X" illustrates where the rubbing is occurring, on the inner front side of the rear wheel wells.
I went with subaruonlineparts.com for all the OEM stuff, with the exception of the rear upper mounts and spring isolators I got from primitive. The boots and struts (B8 Terrasport) were from tirerack, and definitely all came in at under $1K. I wonder how much a local shop would charge to assemble the struts, I really don't want to do the rental spring compressors lol. Maybe I can get a decent price if I also get my alignment from the same shop. Either way I will report back with more pictures and impressions after I get it all installed!
I have a 2011 3.6 limited, just hop on the subaruonlineparts.com site, very easy to look up your parts by VIN#
Just got them installed over the weekend and they seem a bit taller than 1 - 2 inches so far but perhaps it will settle more. Also seems considerably higher in the front🤔. But yeah I'll give it time to settle.
Impression so far is great on road. Firm but not too firm. Still need to take it off road to get the full impression though. Here's how it sits now. Sorry forgot the before shot...
Is that upper bolt hole on the front strut actually vertically elongated? maybe it is just camera distortion.
I can't think of any alignment benefit to a vertically elongated top hole other than perhaps it assists reassembly.
The top hole is where the camber bolt goes in and while photos can be misleading, it almost looks like the elongated top hole is narrower than the original top hole in the OEM strut, forcing the camber bolt to be oriented a particular way? For anyone who has installed the B8 do you know if the camber bolt can still be rotated for adjustment?
Photos of round things often do look oblong or elongated, for example photos of vehicle tires often look non-round so maybe the hole is round and it's just an artifact?
Yes you definitely can still use the upper bolt to adjust camber, I installed them and can confirm they still work properly. But I haven't yet got it aligned, so whether it has ENOUGH adjustment to get back to factory alignment spec. I'm not 100% positive yet. I wanted to drive it for a week and let it settle.
My recommendation is to contact both Rallitek & Bilstein with this conundrum. This product is still in early global release (for the most part) If an update is necessary, they should know to help the rest of us out.
With their Poway location, they may request a drive by?
The only before and after shots I actually took are of the driver side rear. I didn't notice the rear wheel move front or back ward, but the front wheel seems like it could have moved rearward a tad.
Got mine installed on my 2017 Outback this weekend. I swapped out the parts from the existing shocks and, with the exception of cranky sway bar end link that fought me, the job went pretty easy.
I’m running 235/65 x 17 Wildpeaks on WRX rims and I am loving these. I took the car it and had it aligned right after I finished and the ride quality is great. The suspension feels firm and solid in a good way minus the squishy feeling of the stock shocks.
Nothing rubs and the tires look centered so Bilstein was spot on with their design. Tools that made the job easier were Milwaukee’s M12 Stubby impact, which had no issues with any of the suspension bolts, and a pass through ratchet for tightening the top bolt on the struts.
Could you post pictures of the before and mostly after installing the shocks?
I have a Japan model from 2018 (I live in Panama and here are sold the ones imported from Japan) and after installing the shocks I also want to change the Tires for a 245/65 R17, locally I'm looking the best cost/quality relation between BF Goodrich, Michelin or Pirelli, oriented to a 70% street 30% off-road type of tire.
I'm waiting for Rallitek to start selling this shocks with their springs (pre-assembled), FYI they told me that will be between this month and the next one they are testing it before start selling the B8 TerraSport but they already have it with them.
Also thinking in a sub frame drop kit from Rallitek to keep centered the rear wheel, plus a 20mm tire spacer from Perrin to keep the same Subaru 17" rins but give then a better look.
For course, when I have news I can update you
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