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brakes spongy-soft

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#1 · (Edited by Moderator)
I have drained and replaced all the brakes fluid in my impreza out back, and bled the brakes, but they are still super spongy. I have to pump the brake pedal to get them to work.
Ive checked the brake lines and they are all good, but I believe the former owner disabled the ABS but cant see where he did or what he did.
Any tips suggestions to get my breaks working properly and figure out the abs issue.
 
#2 ·
Disabling ABS is just removing a fuse.

When you bleed the brakes, address you fully flushing the system and topping up the brake fluid in the reservoir as you go? Any air that enters the system will result in spongy brakes.

You don't have a leak, or your pedal would just squash to the floor and brake fluid would be spitting out on the floor somewhere.

How are you bleeding the system?
 
#4 ·
Is often impossible to pump your "breaks" to flush air down and out the calipers. A suction is formed when the pedal lifts, sucking the air bubble right back up to where it was before you depressed the pedal.

Good professional mechanics will have a pressure bleeder which affixes to the reservoir cap. Provides a steady pressure and continuous supply of fresh brake fluid. Then all one has to do is go to each corner, open the bleeder until air stops and clean fluid flows. This is how they do it the first time at the factory.

Motive Products makes a tool you can buy. Or, instructions on the internet to make similar product out of a pump garden sprayer. The hard part is fabricating the fitting that goes over your reservoir.

Harbor Freight sells an air powered suction bleeder. Needs a pretty stout air compressor because it uses a lot of air. Provides steady suction at the bleeder so once the air bubble gets moving it doesn't have an opportunity to turn around and rise again. About $35 before sales events.
 
#11 ·
here is how you can test the brake booster yourself.... note the sections on air tightness check, operation check, and loaded air tightness check.... also, the air tightness check will have you pump the brakes and the Expected result is that each successive brake stroke results in a higher pedal.... so depending on where the pedal is now, you might just be experiencing expected behavior.

some suggested things to check... pretty straightforward.

3. Excessive pedal stroke
(1) Entry of air into the hydraulic mechanism -- > Bleed the air.
(2) Excessive play in the master cylinder push rod --> Adjust.
(3) Fluid leakage from the hydraulic mechanism -- > Repair or replace (cup, piston seal, piston boot, master cylinder
piston kit, pipe or hose).
(4) Improperly adjusted shoe clearance --> Adjust.
(5) Improper lining contact or worn lining --> Correct or replace.

some pages on the brake booster attached.
 

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