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clunking under acceleration

6.9K views 5 replies 4 participants last post by  ktb740  
#1 ·
I need some diagnostic advice on this one. Background to start with, sorry it is a bit long. I'm trying to anticipate what you might need to know.

I got this 2005 Outback 2.5i with 85,000 miles last month. I drove it down from Buffalo, NY to my home in North Carolina. So I feel pretty familiar with how it was driving and sounding. the issue I have now certainly was not at all present before I worked on the car. The car had next to no maintenance for the last 7 years, and lived it's entire life in Buffalo. So I thought it was good to really refurbish anything that looked worn. I have a lift and have been repairing/restoring cars for 40 years. So on the front suspension I replaced that struts with preassembled units from FCS. I did the stab bar end links and ball joints. I also did the brake pad and rotors. In the course of torquing the right side lower ball joint cinch bolt the mounting ear at that bolt cracked. So I ordered and installed a new housing, re-using the existing front bearing and outer tierod end; since they did not seem to have any issues.

After putting the car all back together and doing a rough alignment setting, I now have a clunk under acceleration. It seems to be from the right front wheel area, but I will be confirming that with the help of a friend this evening. Only under moderate and heavy acceleration there is a clunk that is in sync with wheel speed. It is independent of the gear (car has AT) Sounds mostly like a knocking (almost like the sound of the exhaust bumping up into the floor). When coasting or braking it is perfectly quiet. If I ride the brake while accelerating, it mostly goes away. Turning or side loading doesn't seem to make much difference, the real key is acceleration loading.

I read a bunch of posts on acceleration related noise here to see what others had experienced. Then last night I put it back up on the lift and disassembled the front brake and removed the rotor to see if I could find any play or other evidence of something that could be hitting, I didn't find anything. While I was under there, I inspected the drive shaft center bearing and ujoints. Also, looked at the LCA bushings too. I couldn't find anything suspicious. My thought is to confirm (tonight) that the noise is clearly coming from the right front wheel area. If so, I was kind of heading towards replacing the right side drive shaft and bearing. I did have to put some hammering effort into getting the bearing assembly out of the old housing so perhaps even though it looked fine, I damaged it in some way. That is my current best guess. But I hate just throwing parts at stuff, when I can't demonstrate anything that is wrong with the existing parts. And nothing I have tried on the lift will reproduce the sound, I have to be driving at 15 mph or more.

Any suggestions are most welcome. Thanks in advance

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This is my 3rd Outback; but I have not been this deep into the front suspension the others. And as I have been doing car stuff for a long time I know that sometimes things that you wouldn't think are related, can be. So here, FWIW, is a list of all the other stuff I did to this car. In case something here triggers a possibility.

timing belt, tensioners, water pump
both acc belts
all 3 hoses
new plugs
replaced all the missing rusted bolts on the heat shields
new rear shocks (not preassembled in the rear, I reused the springs and tops)
new rear pads and rotors.
 
#3 ·
Well I replaced the hub and bearing and the same noise is still there. 😪
My son and I tried to hear it from outside the car, but the engine noise made it impossible to hear the sound from outside. As mentioned above, it has the same sound as an exhaust bumping up against the floor, but this is in perfect sync with the wheel rotation. Although, different than what I first thought, there is a difference in the sound when the car wheels are side loaded in a turn.

So I am still looking for any advice or suggestions, please.

Since the noise seems related to wheel speed, I am considering swapping the CV axles from side to side to see if the noise moves to the left.
I am not inclined to think about the driveshaft ujoints or center bearing yet, since nothing was touched in that area and the noise wasn't at all present before I worked on the wheels/brakes/shocks. Of course, ideally I would be able to find something while the car was on the lift that reproduced the sound. I hate just throwing parts at stuff.

Pat
 
#6 ·
Sorry to resurrect this thread after so long, but I am having this exact issue and was wondering if you noticed anything in particular about the axle you removed that might help me diagnose it.

For background I just replaced both front LCA's, ball joints, end links, sway bar bushings and re-booted the left axle (I think it was a re-man but not sure). Also new pads and rotors, and I changed the tires to summers and rotateed. I was hearing this clunking/knocking sound on acceleration before the work, definitely rotational and goes away when you take your foot off the gas or at steady speeds. I thought it was the torn boot flopping around and didn't hear it immediately after doing the work, but it's back. The axle I rebooted seemed in good shape, no obvious wear or play. Nothing obviously wrong with the other one that I can find, although it is aftermarket, it was put on at a local shop by the previous owner.

I have no other symptoms related to rotation right now, the wheel bearings seemed OK when I was do the front end work. No grinding or clicking. Pat's experience is pointing to the aftermarket axle but I'd appreciate any input before I go and replace it.