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Dipstick replacement - H6 3.0L 2003

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Have read the various threads re: dipstick drama and difficulty getting a reading that makes sense. However I wonder if my lovely local dealer swapped out my dipstick at the oil change last week.

Any suggestions on getting a proper replacement to prove this -- as all OEM options online seem to say they are not appropriate to my engine model.

Am monitoring suspected head gasket, steering rack and possible oil cool(?) seal issues, so I check the oil religiously. Everyone was booked, so relented and went to dealer last Friday.

It took a few days to get onto a proper level parking spot after the appt. And when I did, this was my dipstick level after 12+ hours parked!

Called, drove down and waited for them to fix this overfill. Was told they had a "problem" with my car. That it calls for 6 QT but that the dipstick was showing over-full at 5.5 QT. Good grief it takes some time for the dipstick to show true reading, it needs to sit a bit. They ask if I've had the oil pan changed or damaged. Or if I'd replaced the dipstick. I mention to them, that if it was replaced, it had happened with them 7 days earlier....

At check out, I overhear the lead tech saying "he'd drained the oil for 5 minutes before refilling, it should be fine but that the customer (me) would know if there was a problem very quickly." When I ask for a new reminder sticker on my windshield, am told I don't need a new one, as they didn't replace the oil filter.

It seems ridiculous –– they've added back in 5.5 QT with an already primed, full of oil filter. And only drained the system for 5 minutes, how does this address the issue of overfilled oil? After making this concern known, all I could do was insist that the service notes indicate they did not replace the filter and the amount of oil added back in.

Today, dipstick still shows wildly overfull, just like the photos from yesterday.

So does anyone have a lead on an OEM dipstick for this engine? Not many H6 in the junkyards. Otherwise I'm going to stalk other H6 owners in the parking lot and ask if I can measure their dipstick and that may have a bad result :rolleyes:
 

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#2 ·
Go ahead and use a tape measure to give a reference for yours and someone else might measure theirs and say if it's the same. 2020 Outback XT for reference.

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I may be paranoid, but I always do my own oil changes. Give my vehicles plenty of time to drain, then exactly what owner's manual calls for. I have a Ram Ecodiesel as well, takes exactly 10.5 qts. BTW, the Ecodiesel requires you to remove dipstick then reinsert for correct measurement. It will read a qt low if you don't reinsert. Force of habit makes me reinsert the dipstick in my Subaru as well.
 
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I do not believe that the dipstick was replaced. There's no reason to replace it. As far as I know, the dipsticks are all the same for H6 and H4. The H6 oil pan is longer front to back due to the added 2 cylinders and therefore is capable of holding more oil than the H4 by approx 1 quart.

Checking the oil to get the proper level measure is specific to the engine design. Subaru has oil level checks spelled out in their materials but not everyone pays attention to it. Plenty of people assume how to check the level.

Here's how you do it:

With the car parked on a "level" surface, if the car has been sitting for hours, or days, start the car and let it idle for a minute, shut it off, wait 5 minutes, pull the dipstick, wipe it, reinsert the dipstick and pull it back out to get the engine oil level measurement. If the car had been run and sat more than say 15 minutes, you will get an inappropriate level measurement if you do not start the car and run it for a bit, then let is sit 5 minutes, prior to checking the level.

If the car has sat for hours you will get an "over full measurement". Oil has dripped down in to the oil pan and raised the level in the pan.

I tell people the best way to check the oil level is when you put gas in the car. You've shut it off, you're pumping the gas in and the engine is sitting not running. By the time you've put the gas in, it's about the timespan for getting a proper level check. And gas station pump platforms tend to be on level surfaces. Two for one stop. Gas and check.

You can't just pull a dipstick and get a good measure the first time either. The seal at the top of the stick traps air in the tube and this prevents the oil from coming up the tube to match the level in the pan. When the stick is pulled the first time, air escapes, the level in the tube comes up, or goes down, to match the pan level, and you get an accurate measurement after you've wiped it and reinserted the stick.

After checking the oil properly, let us know what's up.
 
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Here's how you do it:

With the car parked on a "level" surface, if the car has been sitting for hours, or days, start the car and let it idle for a minute, shut it off, wait 5 minutes, pull the dipstick, wipe it, reinsert the dipstick and pull it back out to get the engine oil level measurement. If the car had been run and sat more than say 15 minutes, you will get an inappropriate level measurement if you do not start the car and run it for a bit, then let is sit 5 minutes, prior to checking the level.
... crazy. Totally understand the trapped air/seal issue and I always wipe and retake the measure. But in the early days of my H6 ownership, someone told me that the way this engine sits requires a good number of hours for it to drain down and get a true read. To do it cold, not after running. Your info gives me the hiccups, thinking of all those morning dipstick checks, where it was a touch below the full line and I thought that was fine. It might have been falsely reading higher, based on your reminder of the proper way to do this. Off to check the oil shortly...
 
#10 ·
When one of these engines is taken apart and rebuilt the initial fill is about 5.5 qts, but after running it for a bit, to get it back to the full mark so it's got the correct amount takes another .5 - .75 qts because the oil gets trapped in the small areas of the block and heads, along with what will sit in the oil pump for a time, like any engine that has some miles on it.
All of my boxers will show over full if I check it after sitting. After running the engine and checking, it's where it should be.