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Disconnecting your telematics (Starlink) antenna

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are you disconnecting the sharkfin one entirely? Isn't that the same one for the navigation? Is the XM antenna that one too, or just the window antenna? will be interesting to see if the radio acts up after disconnecting that (slower startup, halts during startup, and so on).

How are you going to confirm that it's truly disconnected?
 
the short reddit thread I read a while back on removing it from a different car mentioned a few things that went through the starlink module - front door speakers and the driver's side door lock... also someone had posted a link to a bypass harness if hooking up an aftermarket stereo, I assume that was to get the speakers to function without going through the starlink module. Didn't ever see anything about the door lock issue though. But they were looking to totally disconnect the starlink module from power (at least I think that was the case).

antenna access looked easier by removing the head unit and just unplugging the starlink antenna connections at the module. Not sure how much more complex the 2020 is from the 2019, but removing things to access those at the head unit isn't terribly difficult.
 
The speakers and the GPS antenna both run through the DCM, but I don't see anything about the door locks in the telematics wiring diagram or vice versa; I think that communication runs over the CAN bus. Regardless, disconnecting the whole DCM rather than just the antennas seems like a pretty bad idea.

I haven't looked at the 2019 manual for comparison, but the only discrepancy I see from your description is that it appears the connectors are now behind the instrument panel instead of behind the head unit.
yeah, the reddit thread I think was either talking about WRX/impreza cars and then referencing stuff at nasioc .... I'm not 100% certain the outback one is in that same place (I think it was the same revision head unit though). I was only curious about removing the power to see if it made a difference on power draw without the car running - like leaving the rear gate up or leaving the car unattended for long periods... but not curious enough to do any testing :)
 
UPDATE: The surgery was a success! The technician went about it slightly differently than I requested, disconnecting everything at the point most proximate to the DCM. He left me this diagram of what he did:

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The following functionality no longer works:
  • Wifi hotspot: the interface hangs if you try to enable it. You can still exit out by touching the "X".
  • XM satellite radio: the UI still works but there's no sound.
Since I already cancelled my Starlink Safety & Security subscription I can't directly verify that it's been truly disabled, but since the wifi hotspot is failing in the expected way I'm confident that it has been.

The following functionality still works just fine:
  • Terrestrial radio
  • GPS and navigation
  • Connecting to external wifi
Thanks a bunch to the service techs at Village Subaru of Acton, MA for coming through on this. This was a pretty weird request and they got it done quickly and capably.

I'm naming my stealth Subaru "Merope".
it's easier than that. There are three antenna connections on the back of the Data Communication Module (DCM). simply unplug those and you're done. The extra connection there on AN21 (connection #2) goes to the audio unit for XM... it’s the xm antenna. Has nothing to do with the DCM communications. The DCM and the radio share the GPS antenna, that antenna cord splits, one connection to the audio, one to the DCM. Unplugging everything at the back of the DCM is easier. And you still get XM if you like that stuff.

three antenna connections on the DCM . Telematics main, telematics sub antenna, and GPS. Note the shared GPS connection, can unplug at the DCM. Or leave the GPS connected if all you want is to stop the telematics data communication from the car.

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it's possible to remove the DCM entirely - The DCM module still collects data, it just can't receive or transmit (which I think was the purpose of this thread, disabling communication). The only connections (other than CANBUS) to the audio from the DCM are wires for the mic, mute function, and front tweeters. There are connectors that loop the tweeter connections back around to bypass the DCM. You still have to figure out what to do with the MIC functions... three wires need to be connected to the back of the radio, and the pins in that connector may not be occupied - so pins might be needed to move the three connections from the DCM to the radio... maybe only two of them - those are the passthrough connections from the DCM to the radio - 2 sets of 2 wires for tweeters, two wires for the mic, and a mute function (leave mute disconnected). There are schematics in the wiring diagrams for the models without telematics, so you can compare the two to figure out what wires should go where if you wanted to disconnect that module entirely.

downsides of that: possible points of failure for a few audio functions (how good is your wiring?), and it's unclear if the mic still works with the three dedicated connections and not the extra three
from the DCM. DTCs that might annoy techs that scan the system for error codes.
upsides: no more DCM at all.
 
As I posted earlier, I'm pretty sure walker is incorrect in their assumption. If 3G was a fallback for LTE then Subaru wouldn't have needed to do any swapping. I can understand how they might think that based on the way phones can fall back to slower speeds, but it's not quite the same situation.
From subaru, from 2016 when telematics was first introduced in the outback

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Interesting. What was the upgrade then? Just unplugging the 3G antenna?
No, it was new firmware. Now, if you want to get Starlink services, and are below a certain firmware, you have to pay for a new DCM to get service.

Subaru’s statement for the reason they did the service campaign for the 3G sunset, says the unit would no longer function. But that could mean several things… maybe the threshold for failover with a weak LTE signal is too high, and the units would cause more customers to call in, or it wouldn’t be available enough to provide a minimum level of service in those areas. Maybe the later firmware just ignores the 3G network entirely instead of a lower threshold. Maybe the units periodically check for a 3G signal and would cause the red error light to go on if it was out for more than a certain number of successive checks, creating excessive notifications into the starlink services, so they, and the customer would get a ton of annoying messages. No idea. Lots of things I could think of, but I never found anything that listed what It fixed for the 3G operation, so it’s all guesses at that point.

Here is their statement (From the FAQ that was originally released)

What is 3G network retirement?

Wireless data network providers will be phasing out their 3G cellular networks to make room for
newer technologies. As a result of this decision by the network providers, devices that require 3G
wireless networks, such as the STARLINK system1 inside some Subaru vehicles, will no longer
operate unless they are upgraded.

If a unit was above a specific firmware, it was OK - this is in another service bulletin if you have a 2016-2018 car, with no current Starlink subscription, and there are problems connecting. Really it’s just a procedure for replacing the DCM, but it was released about the same time as the 3G sunset campaign. The minimum firmware version is: DCM_06.00.17_20190816 . The suffix is a date in ISO format. So August 16, 2019.j

From Subaru’s perspective, it was about keeping reliable service - Starlink services operating as required - when the backup link was no longer available.

Here is where it gets muddled

There is a service bulletin for remediating dark current drain, IF the DCM is found to be causing it on a 2016-2018 vehicle. In there, it lists the same firmware version - that if the unit is on that firmware version - the procedure certainly won’t fix any DCM related power drains.

The implication is that a unit in one of the other two states, Comm Check, Unsubscribed, could cause excessive power drain if the unit is below a certain firmware. The procedure isn’t to be run on a subscribed unit, isn’t to be run on a unit that is at the 3G sunset upgraded firmware version, isn’t to be run on anything other than the vehicles listed in the applicability section.

So - the procedure to fix dark current drain for some vehicles in that service bulletin only applies to cars that were not upgraded.

what’s unclear:
  • what is it about firmwares below the DCM_06.00.17_20190816 revision that cause the drain in either Comm Check mode or Unsubscribed mode.
  • is the excessive drain time just a bit longer than the expected 15 minutes after ignition off, or is it a bit longer. Or a lot longer (Maybe the fix is because it can go 30 minutes not 15. Maybe it’s because it can go 24 hours. No idea)
The service bulletin for that also has a short statement that any DCM related DTC can prevent the DCM from going to sleep for a “prolonged period longer than expected, contributing to the parasitic draw ”. Could be something similar to that was also corrected in the firmware update - multiple polls and no network connectivity keeping the units awake a little longer.

The solution there is to force them into a factory mode, physically disconnect the overhead buttons, and then verify the DCM drain, present before the procedure, is now lower (that the DCM is no longer contributing to it).

I could read the wording in this service bulletin as it’s a fix for a DCM that is looking for a 3G network. I could also read it as it’s a way to eliminate a possible source of drain that is contributing to overall drain, but might be seen as the main culprit (like if it was present a little longer than 15 minutes, but was hiding another smaller always on drain somewhere else).

If you don’t use the DCM, and aren’t going to sign up for services - remember, with a non-remediated 2016-2018 you’d have to pay for a new DCM to sign up at this point - I would disconnect and bypass it. Or just use the cheaper fix to bypass it with the ignition off.
 
Thanks. There must be a CAN signal looking for the transceiver? This would set a transceiver failed message on the CAN bus.
the DCM itself sets some DTCs - so it would be the DCM looking for things it can't find. I'd like to see a service manual for a 2023 and up - since the FOTA updates use the DCM, would the headunit set a DTC if the DCM were missing? Maybe. If it did, probably wouldn't be a problem. Earlier vehicles, a disconnected DCM won't bother any other control modules.


some examples of DTCs set by the DCM:

disconnect the antennas...
DTC B2A01 LTE1 Antenna Circuit
DTC B2A02 LTE2 Antenna Circuit
DTC B2A03 GPS Antenna Circuit

disconnect the speaker/mic connection:
DTC B2A04 Mic Circuit
DTC B2A05 Left Speaker/Audio Circuit
DTC B2A06 Right Speaker/Audio Circuit

Subaru does say that any DTCs set in the DCM can cause unwanted dark current drain. Would be interesting if the OP has experienced any of that - might not be a problem based on what version of the DCM and which firmware. 2019 and up probably won't be a problem with the antennas (subaru says that power drain on those isn't from a weak or non-existent signal reception - it's from an internal memory corruption problem).

removing / disconnecting it completely is maybe a better solution, as MrDude_1 said.
 
I managed to follow these steps, and the pictures helped a great deal. I drive a 2024 Subaru Legacy Touring XT. I have an active Starlink subscription, so I can verify if it's still transmitting.

Unfortunately, it appears it still is. My mileage updates about every day on My Subaru, so I'm confident it's still transmitting. It downloaded a software update maybe a month ago.

I connect my phone via Bluetooth but not Android Auto. I doubt it's my phone doing the transmitting of my car's information.

Have you verified you're no longer transmitting? Any help is appreciated. View attachment 597648
you unplugged the GPS antenna, and the main LTE antenna connection - the gray one you left is the backup LTE antenna connection….see post #60. I’d just unplug all three.