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Law Enforcement access to Starlink data

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#1 ·
I thought I'd drop in with an update on a post I made a couple of years back, concerning the potential use/abuse of the Starlink telemetry data, plus who knows what else, from your newer Subaru.
So; Is it still paranoia if they really are out to get you? Read and weep, friends.


From this article:
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Thought you ought to know . . .
 
#2 · (Edited)
There is a very simple "Social Hygiene" solution to this problem. Abortion providers, mosques, temples, churches, legal cannabis providers, etc. just need to start offering free (or cheap) barbecues. So many of us old retired guys will make it a point to take a pleasure drive to pounce on bargain chicken, ribs or pit beef that the data would become useless.

Laugh if you want to. This works. Flood the system with crap. Lie to skew the data. Been there; Done that.

I know what you're thinking: Alex is just hoping for a national free barbecue network. Fair enough. But the ends justify the means.
 
#65 ·
"Flood the system with crap. Lie to skew the data."

Been done since 1966. Research The Cloward-Piven Strategy.


At Columbia University, sociologist professors Richard Cloward and Francis Fox Piven introduced a political strategy in 1966 in an article entitled 'The Weight Of The Poor: A Strategy To End Poverty'.


This article outlined a plan that they believed would eventually lead to the total transmutation of America into a full-fledged centralized welfare state (in other words, a collectivist enclave). The spearpoint of the Cloward-Piven strategy involved nothing less than economic sabotage against the U.S.
SNIP
 
#10 ·
You could always remove a fuse temporarily, if you don't want to get tracked... but it'd kill your infotainment, I suppose. Or maybe it has a separate fuse? I'd be interesting to know the least intrusive way to disable telematics temporarily. I don't like we get tracked everywhere we go without our consent, but I'm not worried about it. Heck, it might still happen with my phone, even though I always have 'location services' disabled. So I just assume I'm getting tracked all the time. Ha ha... and I probably am.
 
#12 ·
So I just assume I'm getting tracked all the time. Ha ha... and I probably am.
Has anyone noticed all the cameras everywhere they go now?
Urban environment, every other door at least, every corner, every store, every institution and most offices.
Suburban environment, about 1/3 to half of all doors, all intersections, still every store and institution, and many offices.
Rural areas, all along the highways getting to them, I can't say how many doors because I don't get close enough to them to find out, but you can't even go in the woods without getting caught in a trail cam.
 
#13 ·
For anyone buying cameras for their own property I'd recommend getting ones that have your own NVR storage instead of cloud storage.
 
#17 ·
The bad thing about AI is that it's often wrong and if we rely on AI to make decisions, we will make wrong decisions. AI is currently a "black box" where it's not truly understood how or why it generates what it does. We understand in principle but not explicitly. That's why the "hallucination" problem is so persistent and elusive. In essence AI isn't just making random errors, it literally confabulates and can create convincing detailed lies out of whole cloth and nobody seems to have found a way to prevent it yet.
 
#21 ·
Dystopia has emerged as a primary theme of modern science fiction. I enjoy the Black Mirror series.
 
#24 ·
You want to minimize the data access? Wait! Make that minimize the date that YOU provide when you accept EULAs, etc.

Do NOT pair your phone to the car. All that convenience has a price. Your phone is the biggest tattletale that whispers to the car. Tighten the digital blab on the phone FIRST.

On the phone, turn Bluetooth OFF in "Settings", not the fast access screen, which only disables it for 24 hours. Turn off your car's WiFi connection. (This is the setting that allows the car to search for software updates.) Activate it only when you hear about an update or at a set interval. I do this more to prevent using stationary battery power to check.

Do not forget to stop using EZ-Pass or other tolling devices. Stop using insurance dongles for a cheaper rate. Only use cash..., etc.

Fix the easy stuff, but determine your convenience/comfort level.

AND remember:

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Actually, we have reached the point in society where a LACK of data on a person catches attention.
 
#25 ·
It’s not just EZ pass. Many toll roads now photograph vehicles that do not have an EZ pass or other toll device, so if one wants to be incognito, one has to avoid all toll roads, and likely all major roads, since a lot of those roads now have cameras monitoring traffic flow.
 
#29 ·
personally i'm more concerned with them remotely turning off my car at their leisure or locking me out of it because of some loophole in the terms of service agreement because someone had a bad day. Sony is in trouble with this sort of situation and their PlayStations at the moment. On that one they slipped a spot in the terms of agreement that they can lock you out of your console and delete your games if they have "reasonable cause". Granted programs like Origin have had it in there terms of service for years if their program is on your computer they have rights to access everything on your computer regardless of password protection or sensitive files.
 
#41 ·
I truly do not know what is worse on this thread, the number of Suby-shilling astroturfers pretending that they don't care/this is all very normal/stop being paranoid, or the technology-is-magic paranoids who believe that once data is captured it is somehow instantaneously accessible, readable, useful to any number of authoritarian bad actors.
 
#43 · (Edited)
The worst part is those who take themselves (and all of this) too seriously.

I'm going out on a limb here and say that none of us (individually) are important enough, interesting enough, or nefarious enough to be worth even a passing glance. Collectively the data might be useful but probably only for the purpose of identifying and targeting us (and those like us) for a future sales campaign. Any company that is collecting our data is doing so in hopes of selling us more stuff.

The idea that the NSA gives a crap about where we park our cars is laughable. They've got bigger fish to fry. Like those jet contrails and that 5G mind control stuff.