[fatabbot]

I guess to each his own. I found the performance of the Accord to suffer quite a bit when you compare it to a Legacy. Honda excels in other areas, but not in "Sportiness."

Yep, we can agree to disagree. I come off brash, but I'm really not an a-hole

I just find the Legacy to be WAY too soft for a sedan. That thing leans to the side with a 5 mph breeze. The Honda, on the other hand, is much firmer. Of course, that comes with the usual Honda road noise and sometimes jarring ride. My comments were primarily about the handling, not straight line performance. I don't really care about the performance of a 4 cylinder sedan as they're all painfully slow (like my OB, LOL). The V6 Accord tromps the H6 Legacy. I like the LGT, though.

All about what tradeoffs you can accept. I'd take a Legacy over an Accord any day because it has more personality (i.e. you don't see 150 of them on your way to work).

 

[subiesailor]

Yep, we can agree to disagree. I come off brash, but I'm really not an a-hole

I just find the Legacy to be WAY too soft for a sedan. That thing leans to the side with a 5 mph breeze. The Honda, on the other hand, is much firmer. Of course, that comes with the usual Honda road noise and sometimes jarring ride. My comments were primarily about the handling, not straight line performance. I don't really care about the performance of a 4 cylinder sedan as they're all painfully slow (like my OB, LOL). The V6 Accord tromps the H6 Legacy. I like the LGT, though.

All about what tradeoffs you can accept. I'd take a Legacy over an Accord any day because it has more personality (i.e. you don't see 150 of them on your way to work).

The accord wouldn't pull my boat either - towed our sailboat up and down the West coast for 10yrs going to regattas with zero issues. The new Accord at the time which I was considering given a few friends had them - the sales guy nearly hit me when I said that I would be towing a small boat with it- then he said well hope you have lots of cash for repairs because honda will not cover any waranty ie damage if your towing with it.

Hence Subaru was a no brainer Plus I paid 21K out the door for a Legacy GT leather - upgraded sound system etc only thing it did not have was the cold weather package and it was a 5spd MT which is what I wanted. The middle range Accord was far more than that.

 

[Startiger]

I don't really care about the performance of a 4 cylinder sedan as they're all painfully slow (like my OB, LOL). The V6 Accord tromps the H6 Legacy. I like the LGT, though.

I'll have to take your word on the 6 cylinders. For me, between price and mileage, I never really consider them. I have always kept myself to the 4's. However, when my Outback dies, I may look at a 6. I plan on needing some towing power. But I'm not planning on that happening until the 2020 models come out, at the earliest. Baring something happing to my outback.

 

[fatabbot]

For me, between price and mileage, I never really consider them. I have always kept myself to the 4's.

Me, too. My last car was a 4 cylinder Mercury Milan. I'm stuck with my mundane urban commute, so my days of being able to actually enjoy a powerful vehicle are probably past (for a few more years at least).

 

[awd-gg]

FWIW, I had a rental SUbaru legacy 4cyl last year driving in the mountains of PA...That car (2009 or older model, not the current gen) has a beauty when it comes to handling.
I have NOT driven a better handling Hinda accord (although the last MY year I have actually driven was NOT current gen Accord). This is on a dry summer day.
I suspect the current gen Legacy handling is NOT as good as the previous gen.... (longer wheel base, bigger (and taller car-i assume)...etc

 

[subiesailor]

FWIW, I had a rental SUbaru legacy 4cyl last year driving in the mountains of PA...That car (2009 or older model, not the current gen) has a beauty when it comes to handling.
I have NOT driven a better handling Hinda accord (although the last MY year I have actually driven was NOT current gen Accord). This is on a dry summer day.
I suspect the current gen Legacy handling is NOT as good as the previous gen.... (longer wheel base, bigger (and taller car-i assume)...etc

The older gen legacy and gt were actually very deceptive when it comes to handling they had soft sprung suspension but were quite scrappy in the twisties. Lower ride height than the honda accords of similar price - higher end tires than the accords at the same price point and they were AWD. My old GT was pretty **** good in the handling dept no doubt ran circles around the same year Camry or Accord when it came to handling! - Strait line acceleration the honda and Toyota's were faster but they drove like crap when it came to comparing curves and the legacy GT.

I bought a new 2010 legacy 2.5i Premium for my mom who loved my old car but hated the seats. The new Legacy is bigger in strait line its a tad quicker than my old GT but in the curves the new legacy does not have the same hunker down and rip through the curves the old GT had. Then again the new legacy has a taller roof line and is a little bigger. But I still think the base legacy drives the curves better than the accord and Camry.

 

[fatabbot]

The ultimate handling grip on the new Legacy may measure up against the Accord, but it just feels like it's going to roll over. I enjoyed the two I had for loaner cars as they ride nice, have good ergonomics (like the OB, of course), etc. I just wouldn't consider them sporty vehicles (nor would I consider the Accord one if not being compared directly to the Legacy).

Wifey wants a new car in 2011, I don't think she'll like them but I'll have her test drive the Legacy and Forester (even though I don't like it, but I won't be the one driving it). I'd rather give my money to a known salesman and dealership.

 

[awd-gg]

The ultimate handling grip on the new Legacy may measure up against the Accord, but it just feels like it's going to roll over. I enjoyed the two I had for loaner cars as they ride nice, have good ergonomics (like the OB, of course), etc. I just wouldn't consider them sporty vehicles (nor would I consider the Accord one if not being compared directly to the Legacy).

I assume you aretalking the current Gen Legacy, If so, they have the same Problem with the OB....tiny RSB. Legacy's 16mm vs 15mm. So, it maybe a simple $80.(30 minutes) mod. that will take care of it....
Again, that previous gen. Legacy (it wasn't a GT) was very nice handling car. 10 times better that the last 2-3 gen. Toyota Camry.

 

[awd-gg]

The only one I'd agree with is OB>Crosstour. Pilot>>>Tribeca, Accord>Legacy easily, and the Imprezza doesn't hold a candle against a Civic. CRV any day over a tinny Forester.

are you comparing older gen. Forester vs CRV? I thought the current gen. Forester is as big (if not bigger) than CRV?

Yes, NO one can touch Civics Period..... If I'm shopping for car that size and even if I'm a Billionaire, I will still buy the Civics 4 doors. Yes, I will pick civic over any Compact car in teh market today regardless of price point. That is a complete car..... design, ergonomics, reliability, handling....everything you can throw at it....Even lackign 4wd/awd it is a pretty good winter cars as well.

 

[Startiger]

One thing to throw out is Consumer Reports just did a thing on family sedans where they compare the Legacy and the Accord. For the road handling test, they got the following scores:

4 Cylinder versions
Legacy - 83
Accord -79

6 Cylinder Versions
Legacy - 88
Accord - 88

They also gave the Legacy an edge over the Accord for interior room. This is from Consumer Reports, Aug 2010, Pages 57.

So it does look like there is a noticeable handling difference between the 4 and 6 cylinder versions of both cars.

 

[fatabbot]

are you comparing older gen. Forester vs CRV? I thought the current gen. Forester is as big (if not bigger) than CRV?

Tinny as in tin can, not tiny

 

[fatabbot]

One thing to throw out is Consumer Reports just did a thing on family sedans where they compare the Legacy and the Accord. For the road handling test, they got the following scores:

4 Cylinder versions
Legacy - 83
Accord -79

6 Cylinder Versions
Legacy - 88
Accord - 88

They also gave the Legacy an edge over the Accord for interior room. This is from Consumer Reports, Aug 2010, Pages 57.

So it does look like there is a noticeable handling difference between the 4 and 6 cylinder versions of both cars.

I don't really pay CR much mind. Just my opinion.

C&D:

2010 Honda Accord EX vs. 2011 Hyundai Sonata SE, 2010 Subaru Legacy 2.5i - Comparison Tests

Legacy:

Lows: CVT droning, tepid acceleration, soft suspension limits transient response, mulish understeer.

Accord:

Highs: Best-in-class chassis, willing responses, eager exhaust note, lots of interior space, exemplary assembly.

My experiences mirror C&D's 100%. Legacy is just too soft to really enjoy on a winding road.

 

[BadBart]

I had a 91 2dr Honda Accord EX that I LOVED. Sweet little car. Got good mileage, and was fun to drive. Steering was very responsive. I kept trying to find a car I liked better, so I naturally went searching for another Honda... Sad to say, I could not find one at the time that was similar. I tried the 99 2dr EX, but it drove like a Buick... not at all what I was expecting, nor wanting. I was "disappoint". So, I started searching around. About a year later, I ran across a 97 Legacy GT... wow.

I loved that car. Instantly I knew that was the replacement for the Accord. 5spd, great handling, looked schnazzzy, drove like a dream.

Since then I have been a Subaru guy, I replaced the GT with an Outback L.L. Bean (current) when the GT was determined to have terminal cancer. I hated to let it go, but alas it was time, either that or spend $3k in replacing just about every piece of metal behind the rear doors.

The H-6 has treated me well, and I recently have started the quest for replacing "Mr. Bean", and it is not easy at all. I would like to get back into a Legacy GT again... but can't justify the price at the moment. I am not one to buy new. I don't have $15-20k to throw away in the first 3 yrs of depreciation.

Anyway. I also own a Honda Odyssey. Best Van out there. Love it.

Honda and Subaru are both excellent car makers, and each has its own pros/cons, but at the end of the day, I find them equals.

Like has been mentioned- you want AWD+Fun Included?, get a Subaru. You want grocery getter daily driver, with a little bit of fun mixed in? Get a Honda.

I have not driven either one's latest offerings, and from this discussion, I feel I would probably skip this generation of both.

When the used Tribecca's get cheap enough... the Odyssey better look out.

BB

 

[jimy]

I'm a Honda man at heart. I also love Subaru's due to their all weather drivability.

I strongly believe that if you want a long lasting vehicle, doesn't matter make or model, if you take care of it, it will take care of you. Man was I wrong on that one.

I still own my 90 Accord. Its my little daily driver. I purchased my 07 OB XT for daily driving. I refuse to drive my Accord in the rain or snow. People will say its only an Accord but its my Accord and I put a lot of love into it.

my Accord

my OB (took it from dealer site, hehehehe)