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Sudden CVT problem - P0841 P0965 P0700

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#1 ·
Australian 2010 Outback 2.5, TR690

My friend was just driving his car down the road, when the car suddenly went into 'neutral' it just coasted and had no drive or reverse.

The AT, engine and stability lights are on the dash

I read these codes with the code reader:

P0841
Transmission Fluid Pressure Sensor/Switch "A" Circuit Range/Performance

P0965
Pressure Control Solenoid "B" Control Circuit Range/Performance

P0700
Transmission Control System (MIL Request)

I tried clearing the codes, they come back after about 3 seconds. And car doesn't have any forward or reverse ability just like being in neutral in any gear.

We had recently replaced the Torque Converter due to stalling problems (about 500km ago) and replaced the CVT fluid with genuine Subaru fluid.

Is this a problem with the valve body or something else in the CVT?

Thanks for any help
 
#2 ·
It sounds like it is a “low on transmission fluid” problem.

Have you checked the fluid level and if so did you do it with the vehicle on a level surface AND the transmission fluid at the correct temperature?

Seagrass
 
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#3 ·
It sounds like it is a “low on transmission fluid” problem.

Have you checked the fluid level and if so did you do it with the vehicle on a level surface AND the transmission fluid at the correct temperature?

Seagrass
Thanks

He said he check it and added a small amount of fluid recently when the engine/transmission was warm, enough so that it started running out the fill hole before putting the plug back in.
We can double check the level tomorrow, but I'm not sure how well the CVT fluid will heat up when there isn't any forward/reverse so no power going to the CVT?
 
#5 ·
We double checked the fluid level today.
With the engine running after idling for a while, with the car exactly level, we took off the fill plug and lot's of fluid came out!
After draining I tried clearing the codes and restarting but the codes came back and still no forward or reverse.
Tried draining more out slowly about three times, since the fluid was cold I thought the level might still be too high. Tried clearing codes and restarting the car but the codes always came back.
Also was shifting the gear level through the gears to try and make sure the fluid was getting primed.
After switching off the engine, no extra fluid came out, but I thought the level was supposed to rise with the engine off.
We don't really know why the fluid level was so high, and whether it was the cause of a problem or the symptom of a problem.

Later I took the transmission fluid pan off and had a look. The screen on the pickup filter wasn't blocked, but the filter itself was covered in a dark grey metallic sludge.

I tested the solenoids from the plug with a multi-meter and go these results (expected good ohms in brackets):
Orange 3.5 (3.2)
Purple 13.2 (12.0)
Blue 13.0 (12)
White 5.7 (5.2)
Green 36.3 (12)
Red 6.9 (6.6)
Yellow 16.4 (16)

I quadruple checked the green wire and got the same reading every time.

I'm guessing this means the green wire solenoid is bad?
Is that one supposed to be the lock-up duty solenoid?

Would this combined with the dirty filter explain our problems?

Cheers
 
#6 ·
We double checked the fluid level today.
With the engine running after idling for a while, with the car exactly level, we took off the fill plug and lot's of fluid came out!
After draining I tried clearing the codes and restarting but the codes came back and still no forward or reverse.
Tried draining more out slowly about three times, since the fluid was cold I thought the level might still be too high. Tried clearing codes and restarting the car but the codes always came back.
Also was shifting the gear level through the gears to try and make sure the fluid was getting primed.
After switching off the engine, no extra fluid came out, but I thought the level was supposed to rise with the engine off.
We don't really know why the fluid level was so high, and whether it was the cause of a problem or the symptom of a problem.

Later I took the transmission fluid pan off and had a look. The screen on the pickup filter wasn't blocked, but the filter itself was covered in a dark grey metallic sludge.

I tested the solenoids from the plug with a multi-meter and go these results (expected good ohms in brackets):
Orange 3.5 (3.2)
Purple 13.2 (12.0)
Blue 13.0 (12)
White 5.7 (5.2)
Green 36.3 (12)
Red 6.9 (6.6)
Yellow 16.4 (16)

I quadruple checked the green wire and got the same reading every time.

I'm guessing this means the green wire solenoid is bad?
Is that one supposed to be the lock-up duty solenoid?

Would this combined with the dirty filter explain our problems?

Cheers

Hello, I was wondering if you were ever able to figure out the diagnosis of this problem and fix it as I am currently having the same issue.

Thanks!