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Turbo H6 Attempt?

1.2K views 29 replies 4 participants last post by  cardoc  
#1 · (Edited)
This is probably a dumb idea but sometime next summer I will begin my attempt at turboing my 03 L.L. Bean. I have minimal knowledge on these cars and plan to use as much OEM subaru stuff as possible to make this happen.

Currently looking at using an 04 forester xt tmic, turbo, and a coolant reservoir . When I go to pull the parts from my local salvage I plan on also grabbing just about anything else connected to the turbo or intercooler that looks important. Currently working on tracking down a baja turbo hood as well for that tmic. I don't plan on running much more than 7lbs of boost, just enough to make it a little quicker while maintaining reliability. I'm happily accepting any recommendations and advice for this project and I do want to do my best to follow through.

I'm still in the part sourcing phase and will not start this properly until around March.

Update 11/24/2024-
05 Forester xt tmic, coolant expansion tank, Baja hood, and bpv have all been acquired. I'm going to attempt to use the TD04s internal wastegate but it'll entirely depend on how low I can get that turbo to boost. If I can't get it under 7psi I'll run the WRX map sensor as cardoc mentioned below since that doesn't appear to be a huge expense depending on the model and new vs used.
 
#4 · (Edited)
Apologies for this question but are the blowoff valve and waste gate vacuum controlled? I'm specifically looking towards the 04 Forester XT for parts It looks to be that way in photos and if that's the case that'll be a huge help in simplifying this project. Not a fan of hunting electrical gremlins lol
 
#5 ·
The wastegate is electronically controlled, but you'll have to have a piggyback or mechanical device control it in some fashion since the H6 computer is not capable of it. The bypass valve is controlled by vacuum opening when vacuum is high at closed throttle. Since this car is speed density tuned, you can just vent the bypass to atmosphere. It doesn't need to bypass back into the intake tubing.

You'll need Rom Raider and ECUFlash to change the ROM so the engine will run with boost. RR for data logging and ECUFlash for reading, editing and writing. Definitions built for my VDC may work on yours. If not, you'll need to have definitions built

You'll need larger injectors, at least 425cc, so it'll run smooth at high rpm. You'll also need a higher volume fuel pump. I use DeatschWerks and they work great. DW200 should be good, but DW300 guarantees flow.

The stock MAP sensor and ECM will see up to 5 psi. Over that you'll need a WRX MAP and will have to rescale the MAP in the ROM or run it rich enough that it won't matter over 5.

You'll need to make a spot to put the IAT - preferably after the intercooler. (On the intercooler, look at WTA Type 13. Can mount to the throttle and you can easily make the IAT fit into the joint tube or intercooler after the "radiator".)

The exhaust manifold will need to be custom fabbed with an up-pipe and downpipe for the turbo. Divorced downpipe without a cat is best. You'll then need to move the intermediate exhaust to the downpipe with minimal bends. Tight fit so the math has to be good. Otherwise, maybe a downstream turbo mounting, but then you still have fit and much more plumbing.

The auto trans doesn't like the boost. The soft shift 2-3 programmed in the TCM can't be changed and every trans I had burned 3rd. The last 2 custom built trans burned the TCC up. Again, TCM programming issues. I put in a 6 speed. Much better. (Mine is supercharged and hits up to 12 psi. Raptor)

Make sure the engine is running perfect BEFORE you put boost to it. It's high compression and any little thing will make a huge impact.
 
#6 ·
Thank you for the advice! Everything has been added to the shopping list including figuring out how to use an external wastegate with the td04 (probably just going to use a summit wastegate). To avoid more extensive map for now I'll limit it to around 5lbs.
Glad to see there's not too many surprises on this list. Going to salvage today to grab the foz xt intercooler and turbo. If the transmission dies after all this then so be it.
 
#10 · (Edited)
This hood was only $130. That fender wouldn't happen to belong to the same baja we got the hood from in Nevada, would it? I'm still undecided if I'm going to attempt to paint the hood myself. More than likely it's getting dropped off with someone who knows what they're doing since pearl colors are hard to match from what I've heard.
 
#17 ·
That's why I suggested a water to air type 13. Fit great on my H6.

Either way, if you mount it to the throttle you'll have to make the brackets to support it so it doesn't move around freely and cause a boost leak.
I guess you live and learn lol
The overall fit of the intercooler isn't awful, the issue arises where it meets the turbo. Not a lot of space, if any, for a down pipe due to this box of mysteries
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I'm just going to do it your way since the tmic leaves no room for the IAT