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2013 daytime running lights

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Hi. I am the proud owner of a 2013 outback 2.5i premium and am wondering how to get the daytime running lights to not turn on without causing any other problems. Thank you.
 
#5 ·
When you search, you'll find there are two straightforward ways to disconnect your DRLs without affecting anything else. One is to locate the large resistor used by the DRL circuit and disconnect the wires. The other method - the one I used - is to cut one of the wires coming from the DRL relay under the hood. Fortunately when I cut the wire, I attached male and female connectors to the ends so I could reattach the DRLs easily. I ended up doing that later.

Edit: and by the way, I originally disconnected my stock DRLs because I had installed a different type of DRLs. My car was never without DRLs. I believe in them as a strong safety element, and you should too. I now have my stock DRLs working along with two 8 led DRLs that i installed in the grill.
 
#37 ·
Edit: and by the way, I originally disconnected my stock DRLs because I had installed a different type of DRLs. My car was never without DRLs. I believe in them as a strong safety element, and you should too. I now have my stock DRLs working along with two 8 led DRLs that i installed in the grill.
What about substituting LED lights in place of the stock DRL's? Not sure if that is possible? SuperBright.com has several listed but not clear which ones are compatible.
 
#10 ·
There are way too many wanna-be parental types on this forum. This thread is another example. They are not legally required, and we shouldn't scold people for what we individually think is a good idea.

Answer the OP's question or don't, we don't need your personal views on every thread in the forum.
 
#11 ·
There are way too many wanna-be parental types on this forum ... and
we shouldn't scold people for what we individually think is a good idea.
Yes, mommy.

Looby
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#14 ·
I wouldn't mind a switch inside the cabin for the DRL A way to leave them on all the time, but for the small percentage of times you wish to turn then off for a specific situation you can.
 
#15 ·
Just cut the DRL power wire from the relay or to the resistor, run two wires through the firewall, and connect them to a SPST switch. No problem. It would be better to add a relay, though, so that you aren't running a lot of current through the little switch in your dash.
 
#26 ·
Let's try and stay on the actual topic, shall we?
 
#28 ·
My apologies to those that got excited about my question. FWIW, I live in Wisconsin where having your headlights on every time the car is shifted into gear is not a law.

That said, I have searched this forum and have found a few threads discussing this and would like verification before I start disconnecting things. If there is anyone here who could verify what I think that would be great. I'm looking at a light grey colored connector that looks to have 2 wires that is mounted to the inner drivers side fender inside the engine compartment almost directly under the inner edge of the engine compartment plastic fuse box cover. It looks to come through the metal inner fender well area, to the connector, then goes into the main wiring harness. Would this be the connector that would disable the daytime running lights without cutting wires? Positive/helpful responses are appreciated. If that can't happen on this forum no problem I can always swing by the dealer and point out the connector I'm talking about and ask them. Thank you.
 
#31 ·
I agree there were specific instructions for disconnecting the DRLs by pulling the plug going in to the DRL resister, but I didn't do it that way. However, when I last had the drivers side wheel lining removed, the resister was large, gray and just sitting there in front of the tire. You should be able to find it easily. I don't know the color of the connector.

If you want to cut the wire coming from the DRL relay under the hood, as I did, let me know and I'll try to find the instructions.


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#34 ·
'Stupid is What Does'.
"SIWSD"

Thanks for your posts scoobydoo, you have now referred to me as 'stupid' at least twice for asking an honest question. It was interesting reading some of that thread you linked to though. Apparently a few of the same people who were crying about the thought of someone disabling their drl's 3 years ago are still crying about it now. Guess we all need hobbies.;)
 
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#41 ·
HB3 LED Bulb - 28 LED Daytime Running Light | H series | Specialty & Automotive | Universal LED Bulb Finder | Super Bright LEDs

looks like this 9005 H Series bulb fits? I don't use my high beams much might give this a shot. Not sure if these require any wiring mod? I've converted most of the other bulbs to LED, but have yet to replace headlight bulbs.
Those look interesting, and certainly bright. So if I understand things correctly, if you replace your high beam lamps with these, they will run at less than 12v during the day, and be off when the low beams are on. Then, if you turn on your high beams, these LEDs will run at full power.

My only question would be concerning running these during the day at a lower voltage. The spec says the operating voltage must be 9 - 14.8v. I know that the huge resister in the DRL circuit drops the voltage to our high beams during the day, but I don't know by how much. If the resulting voltage is less than 9v, then I doubt your LEDs would operate correctly.
 
#42 ·
Makes sense. My guess is that at least the DRL function works as advertised...but high beams might not work at all. I will see if SuperbrightLED knows. Also I thought there was at least one person on this website that already did this mod.
 
#43 ·
I don't remember seeing that anywhere. Several of us have installed the Philips 8 LED DRLs and are quite happy with them.

I was going to check the stock DRL voltage, but then I remembered that the DRLs are only on when the car is in gear. So I'd have to get someone to put the car in gear while I was in front with my multimeter. A little scary and not really worth it. I looked in the FSM where they show the DRL resister and relay, but it doesn't give the resister spec.
 
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#49 ·
I haven't read through this entire thread, but I have measured the DRL voltage. With the engine running, I got 13.9V for high beams and 8.6V for the DRL.

I'm a proponent of vleds simply based on personal use. They also publish the lumen output of their bulbs, while others do not (reminds me of how Bose doesn't publish specs of their audio equipment :D)

I use these for DRLs (850 lm output, where the stock high beam is 1700 - I have no idea what the lumens of the stock DRL are but 850lm sounds reasonable to me)
5K WHITE 10 LED DRL/FOG LIGHT BULBS HB3 9005 H10 9145 | 1 PAIR - White LED - 9005 HB3 - 9000 Series - Bulb #

I also have installed these modules to drive the DRL voltage up to 12V (14.5V actual)
9005 PLUG N' PLAY DRL DAYTIME RUNNING LIGHT MODULE | 1 EACH - Flashers | Modules

Hopefully you guys find this helpful
 
#51 ·
Yes, high beams were lost. I know it's not perfect, but I never use the high beams anyway. I heard through the grapevine that V-leds might be working on a DRL bulb that will still work as a high beam and a DRL. They've already got bulbs that can get fully bright, but I guess they have to work on 2-way circuit to allow DRL. The unfortunate thing is that if you try and stay ahead of the curve by being an early adopter, you really end up partially funding the R&D for future/better products.
 
#54 ·
With the first link I was trying to clarify, if disabling high beams is legal or not in CA. It's inconclusive...although there are some vague references to dual headlights there.

The second 2 links demonstrate (at least that is how I see it) how difficult is to change laws or adopt new emerging technology in this country. The rest of the world enjoys the innovations (some of them ours) before we do. Example: Radial tires being introduced in this country (in the 50s). Although invented (and patented) by Arthur Savage in 1915 (in San Diego) his patent expired in 1949. Then Michelin (Marius Mignol) started the production of radial tires in 1946 in France (the year I was born, yes, I am that old...). It took years before they were introduced on these shores, just because this country had aging/ancient factories and pathetic protective laws that could not or would not adapt to new technology quickly enough. (DOT, NHTSA...)


Sorry for not making my points clear.

And I like, what you are trying to do (or doing) - that is what these posts are all about! Many people find some mods "bizarre" although I would call it innovative but many times also an overkill...

"Creativity is the greatest rebellion in existence.”
Osho ... yeah - that's him.... on the left side...LOL
 
#56 ·
It took years before they were introduced on these shores, just because this country had aging/ancient factories and
pathetic protective laws that could not or would not adapt to new technology quickly enough. (DOT, NHTSA...)
Uhh, the USDOT and NHTSA were created in 1967 and 1970, respectively.

...kinda clever of them to obstruct progress in the 1940's and 1950's,

Looby