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Coolant temperature range for happy H6?

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#1 ·
I started watching my OBD-readings for the engine coolant temperature this week, and was not expecting what I'm seeing: slow fluctuations between 90`C and 99`C, generally sitting 95-96`C. Temperature gauge doesn't look any different, 9 o'clock plus or minus a hair. The highway drives have been a mix of generally flat (temps 92-96) to long, moderate hills (finally saw 99 for a moment tonight; recovered to 96 or 94 in under a minute).

Car is a 2007 L.L.Bean wagon, USDM (3.0 5EAT VDC) Does that sound normal for any of you other H6 (EZ30R) owners? If not, what temperatures should I expect? My '99 EJ25D generally runs high 80s to low 90s, even in summer heat barely going over 96`C. I didn't see any signs of overheating over the past summer and fall in the 2007, but never watched the actual ECT sensor values. If this is a sign of malfunction, I'd rather know before the summer heat comes back again.

Note this has been at standard highway speeds, light load (one or two people, one or two bags each), generally 5th gear (running 2000-3000 RPM), outside temperatures between 5`C and -5`C, HVAC on auto, set to 75`F (about 24`C), driving 65-75mph.

It is late now that I'm thinkng about this, so I could not easily make sense of anything in the FSM that might have listed expected temperatures. My overflow bottle is low, though last I checked (3-4 weeks ago) radiator level seemed fine. Cabin heat works; passenger side is still a jot cooler, so I suspect there's a little bit of heater core flush needed. Loads better than it was before cleaning the passenger mix actuator a month ago, though.
 
#2 ·
Those temps are fairly normal in my experience. Due to the age of your vehicle it would be worthwhile removing the radiator and checking for any obstructions of the cooling fins. It is not uncommon for the cooling fins to be covered in debris and unless you remove the radiator you never even know the debris is there.

Seagrass
 
#3 ·
I was logging ECT 99C touching 100 until replacing the radiator, cap and t-stat @ 130k kms. It didn't seem externally blocked but was leaking a little around the top seam which would have gotten worse and perhaps was letting air in. My old radiator could have had some sort of internal blockage but didn't test for that. Anyways once warmed up the ECT log now shows 94 or 95C with the dash temp gauge generally one of the tiny dial ticks below horizontal.
 
#4 ·
The temp gauge on my 2.5i doesn't move above "normal" until I hit 101C.

My 2.5i usually is around 82-85C on flat ground. Going uphill, low-90s maybe. Towing a 1000-lb trailer uphill on a tight twisty road, I'll hit 101C before the fans kick on and push it down to 96C.

Worst I ever hit was ~104C. Air temp was 109F, and I was towing a trailer uphill at highway speeds with the AC on. After turning the AC off, it fell back down to 100C.

Granted - my car has not always been like this. It was overheating for a long time when I purchased it and spent a lot of time sorting out the cooling issues. A thorough chemical flush and a new denso radiator ended up sorting things out nicely for me. I think the PO had put in stop leak that clogged everything up.

A good anchor point is your thermostat temp (mine's 82C). After fixing my cooling system, it seems to keep my coolant temps near there, especially on flat ground, low load, and high speeds. Hills, load generate more heat, and high ambient temp makes it harder for the car to do it's job.